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Month: November 2008

Center Wrong Watch

Well, it’s been proven. The country is definitely center-right:

In a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday, 59 percent of those questioned think that Democratic control of both the executive and legislative branches will be good for the country, with 38 percent saying that such one-party control will be bad.

“That much good will from the public opens a window of opportunity for the Democrats,” CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. “But the public expects results and may not listen to excuses for very long if a Democratic Congress and a Democratic White House can’t get their act together in time.”

The poll also suggests that the public has a positive view of the Democratic Party, with 62 percent having a favorable opinion and 31 percent an unfavorable opinion.

That is not the case for the Republicans, with a majority, 54 percent, having an unfavorable view of the GOP and 38 percent holding a positive view.

“The public has a positive view of the Democratic Party, while the GOP ‘brand’ is hurting. Overall views of the Democratic Party have gone from 53 percent favorable in October to 62 percent favorable now; the GOP overall has seen a 5-point drop in its favorable rating,” Holland said. Video Watch how pessimistic the nation is »

The 62 percent figure is the “the highest opinion of the Democrats in at least 16 years, since before Bill Clinton got elected,” said Bill Schneider, a CNN senior political analyst.

“When has the Republican Party image ever been that bad? Answer: when the Republican Congress impeached President Clinton at the end of 1998,” Schneider added.

This can only be interpreted to be a mandate that the new administration needs to bring as many of these unpopular Republicans into the administration and enact as many GOP priorities as possible.

And, by the way, the country hasn’t been “center-right” for quite some time. This is yet another example of the villagers thinking they are the representatives of Real America — just as they did when they staged the world’s biggest hissy fit over Bill Clinton’s zipper. It’s all about them.

Update: Via Sadly No, here’s a wonderful idea from a man who is widely anticipated to be running for president already:

Q: Any management advice for the next president? How does he rally a depressed nation to meet the challenges we face?

Mittens: He should forget entirely about reelection and focus solely on helping the nation at a critical time. He should dismiss the people who helped him win the election and bring in people who are above politics and above party. He should surround himself with statesmen and economists, businesspeople and leaders. In some ways it would be beneficial if our presidency consisted of only one term. That way the President would think about his legacy and the future of the country rather than reelection and partisanship.

It certainly would be “beneficial” for Mitt. It’s the only way he’s is likely to become president in 2012.

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Fiscal Responsibility I Can Believe In

by dday

I’m resisting the temptation to analyze every little story about what the incoming Obama Administration might or might not do once in office. I can probably find you 10 stories that would suggest progressive boldness (the Office of Urban Policy, going big on stimulus, negotiations to end the war in Afghanistan) and just as many that would suggest the polar opposite (Larry Summers, no material change in intelligence policy, general wariness to call the election a progressive mandate). All of them or none of them may be true; it depends on the unnamed source doing the leaking and how certain it is that they reflect Obama’s thinking. I’m at pains to draw many conclusions from them.

However, the typical Village revisionism that warns incoming Democrats to dump the left or suffer the consequences does have me concerned. Clearly there is this emerging consensus that Obama simply must govern in a bipartisan fashion (I remember so clearly the same exact demands put on George W., don’t you?) If the President-Elect were smart (and he is), he would use the concepts of this Pentagon advisory group to turn that argument upside-down.

A senior Pentagon advisory group, in a series of bluntly worded briefings, is warning President-elect Barack Obama that the Defense Department’s current budget is “not sustainable,” and he must scale back or eliminate some of the military’s most prized weapons programs.

The briefings were prepared by the Defense Business Board, an internal management oversight body. It contends that the nation’s recent financial crisis makes it imperative that the Pentagon and Congress slash some of the nation’s most costly and troubled weapons to ensure they can finance the military’s most pressing priorities.

Those include rebuilding ground forces battered by multiple tours to Iraq and Afghanistan and expanding the ranks to wage the war on terrorism.

“Business as usual is no longer an option,” according to one of the internal briefings prepared in late October for the presidential transition, copies of which were provided to the Globe. “The current and future fiscal environments facing the department demand bold action.”

This is pretty obvious. But Washington works on the shared fiction that military funding doesn’t involve real money, but magic cash growing on a fantasy unicorn tree somewhere in Langley. Blue Dogs like to talk about fiscal discipline, but get funding from contributors and provide jobs for their constituents through these bloated contracts. There is a cottage industry funneling cash to these contractors, and they’re exceedingly powerful.

However, despite the long odds this is a battle worth waging. Busting this fiction would remove a major institutional constraint to the progressive agenda – while the Pentagon just wants to use the money saved from outdated weapons systems to fund internal improvements and armed forces expansion, eventually the capital costs would fade and the weapons contracts wouldn’t come back. And mind you, we’re talking about massive, budget-busting sums, without much justification.

A recent analysis by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, assessed the Pentagon’s 95 largest weapons programs and found that as of March 2008 they had collectively increased in cost by nearly $300 billion over initial estimates.

“None had proceeded through development while meeting the best-practice standards for mature technologies, stable design, and mature production processes all prerequisites for achieving planned cost and schedule outcomes,” the GAO said in documents published last week to help guide the presidential transition.

It added: “Over the next five years, [the Defense Department] expects to invest more than $357 billion on major defense acquisition programs. Much of this investment will be used to address cost overruns rooted in poor planning, execution, and oversight.”

All the branches of the military are in a similar situation. The Army plans to invest an estimated $160 billion in the coming years on a set of new combat vehicles collectively known as the Future Combat System. But their capabilities “are still early in development and have not yet been demonstrated,” according to GAO.

$300 billion here, $300 billion there, pretty soon you’re talking about real money. Enough to finance a new energy grid or universal health care.

(Incidentally, skyrocketing health care costs are one of the military’s biggest burdens – over half of their budget goes to personnel costs, including $60 billion for health care.)

This is obviously an area where the pull of lobbyists and the military-industrial complex would be extreme. Of course this is a Defense Department internal agency making the recommendation, so there are at least some allies to be rallied. Defense contractors have shops in practically every Congressional district in America, for just this reason, so they can characterize any reduction in their payments as a jobs issue.

But there are opportunities to convert these manufacturing jobs – into clean energy construction, building out broadband, creating a 21st-century energy grid to transmit alternative forms of energy, repairing and modernizing infrastructure. Those would be sustainable jobs based on creation rather than destruction. It happens to be more fiscally responsible than the current path, too.

Indeed, the Obama Administration has already signaled an end to replacement nuclear warheadsm (as part of a big picture strategy to rid the world of nuclear weapons) and missile defense:

The incoming administration, according to the paper, may retool the intelligence under secretary office established by Donald Rumsfeld; create a new high-level energy security post; and divide the substantial portfolio of the assistant secretary for special operations/low-intensity conflict and interdependent capabilities.

It will also mull cuts to high-profile weapon systems, the paper states, naming three: national missile defense, the Airborne Laser and the Army’s Future Combat Systems program.

Selling this to the Village as exactly the neo-Hooverist fiscal austerity they appear to be looking for, while going big in terms of a stimulus package. And putting all appropriations for Iraq and Afghanistan on budget would mean that the Bush Dogs couldn’t abandon their supposed fiscal principles in favor of “supporting the troops.”

If there’s one area where Obama should highlight a commitment to reining in spending it ought to be the military budget. It’s dangerous, and the powerful forces who want the gravy train to continue would be gunning for him. But with a ground army of supporters willing to help, I think you might be able to sufficiently confuse the Village into thinking of this as a bipartisan, transpartisan, postpartisan kneecapping of the Left.

…I hope it doesn’t seem like I’m buying into this Village tenet that all Democratic Administrations must only act in a bipartisan fashion. In fact, the polls show that they actually want full Democratic control of government so that the country can actually function. But that will erode if these Village means go unchecked, and a good way to deal with it is to subvert them.

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The Seven Aphorisms

I can’t wait for this. From TChris at Talk Left:

Michael Daniels, the Mayor of Pleasant Grove City, Utah, is dancing on a tightrope as he explains why the City accepted “an imposing red granite monument inscribed with the Ten Commandments” for display in a city park, but won’t accept for display a monument that depicts the Seven Aphorisms of the Summum religion. A similar dance will be performed in the Supreme Court tomorrow as the Court hears argument about the constitutionality of that choice.

I will be very interested to see the right wingers dance on the head of a pin to justify this, and I’m sure they will. This one is tough because they’ve justified Ten Commandment monuments as long as there are different religions represented also.

I am not crazy about religion of any kind involved with government, but one way to clear up what “freedom of religion” really means is if Christian theocratic types realize that they can be no more important than the Summum religion or Wicca or Scientology under the constitution. That ought to help put things in their proper perspective.

I’ll be looking forward to reading the opinion.

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Fairy Tales Of Yore

by digby

Jonathan Schwarz addresses this myth that Clinton came in and tried to do all this crazy leftist stuff which resulted in his losing the 1994 election. It’s driving me nuts:

Their latest masterpiece is the Terrifying True Tale of How the Early Clinton Administration Was Crippled by Liberals. You see, Bill Clinton began his presidency by giving into his wild-eyed leftist instincts. But the wise American people rejected his class warfare! They punished him and the Democrats by giving control of congress to Republicans in the 1994 midterm elections. So Clinton sobered up and governed from the center. Obama better not repeat Clinton’s mistakes by giving into the left! The End. In reality, of course, Clinton knuckled under to the center right—much of which was located within the Democratic party—from the very beginning. Following their advice, he went all out to pass NAFTA, then failed to pass universal health care. People who’d been desperate in 1992 saw no economic improvement by 1994. And with the low 45% voter turnout in the midterms, the Democrats lost control of Congress (mostly via the defeat of center right Democrats). Here’s an especially fine example of the Terrifying True Tale, by John Heilemann in New York Magazine. Heilemann deserves extra credit for berating people who remember history for not remembering history

Be sure to read Heileman’s fairy tale. It’s a masterpiece of the genre. I particularly liked this:

Picking Summers would send a powerful message that Obama isn’t going to let himself be pushed around, as Clinton was, by the various factions on the left during his transition. That merit matters to him more than ideology or identity politics…

Indeed, several sources in the Obamasphere tell me Emanuel’s installment is meant to send a crystalline message to congressional liberals: that the president-elect has no intention of allowing them to set the agenda, let alone roll him as an earlier generation of Capitol Hill pooh-bahs did to Clinton in 1993 and 1994…

Gays in the military was the only crazy leftist thing he did — he thought that something he’d explicitly campaigned on would be uncontroversial and that a dirty hippie could be Commander In Chief. He learned quickly. I suspect that Obama will not make the mistake of thinking that his campaign promises have necessarily been endorsed by the people who matter — the villagers — and he certainly will be aware that the military brass are comprised of a bunch of unreconstructed wingnuts who will have to be handled with kid gloves because they are looking for reasons to sandbag him.

Other than that, Clinton’s crazy, leftwing proposals were raising taxes on the wealthy, an energy tax, universal health care and NAFTA. He ended up having to pass his budget on a strict party line because itcontained a modest tax hike on millionaires. NAFTA was one of those bipartisan bills that the village praised as an example of how things should be. The others were tanked. They harrangued him endlessly about the deficit and “fiscal responsibility” and simultaneously about not enacting the middle class tax cuts.

There was no honeymoon. Here is an example of the environment Clinton was operating in just four months after he was inaugurated. You’ll see what those “liberal poohbahs” in the congress were actually doing:

President Clinton conceded today that he would have to reduce his tax proposals and cut spending more deeply to get his economic program through the Senate, but he held out the hope that his plans to put more money into education and job training would not be gutted in the process.

In a speech here, Mr. Clinton acknowledged that large changes in his budget plan were inevitable and set out five areas that he did not want touched. He asked negotiators to leave intact his goal of reducing the deficit by $500 billion over four years, to approve only those new taxes that affect the rich more than the poor, to keep measures for small business and for the working poor and to retain spending cuts.

Although he voiced support for his energy tax proposal, it was not included in his guidelines for the negotiators. The White House has been signaling its willingness to trim the energy tax increase and cut Medicare more deeply since the House of Representatives narrowly passed the economic plan on Thursday. The conciliatory tone has been praised by Senator David L. Boren, of Oklahoma, a Democrat who had vowed to block the package.

“We’ll cut the taxes and have more spending cuts next week,” Mr. Clinton said in his speech today, delivered before an invited audience at the Milwaukee Exposition and Convention Center. “But when we do, let’s leave the money in there that will shape these children’s economic future. Let’s have the money for education and training, for investment in technology for help for the defense industries that are building down.”

Jobs Are Paramount

“After all,” he added, “you can cut all the spending you want. If people don’t have jobs, we’re still not going to be able to balance the budget.”

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In a challenge to the Senate, which will take up his program next week, Mr. Clinton laced his 50-minute speech with frequent references to issues like welfare reform that appeal to the conservative Democrats he is hoping to win back to his side.

“This is a historic moment,” he said. “Now that the House has passed this budget plan to reduce the deficit and to target investments in our future, and it’s going to the Senate for further debate, we can make a decision to seize control of our economic destiny.”

Passing his budget, Mr. Clinton said, would be a sign that members of Congress are willing “to try to find bipartisan responsibility in place of bipartisan blame and irresponsibility.”

In the face of criticism from moderates in his own party and independents like Ross Perot, Mr. Clinton has been furiously maneuvering back toward the center of the political spectrum in recent days, even going so far as to add David R. Gergen, a longtime adviser to Republican Presidents, to his White House staff.

He continued on that path today, saying he favored “not entitlement, not abandonment, but empowerment.”

Mr. Clinton was warmly received here today, but the latest CBS News poll showed that the public’s optimism over his economic plan faded in the last several months. Only 28 percent of Americans now say the Clinton economic plan, if adopted, “will help the national economy” in the next few years. At the time the plan was proposed in February, 53 percent expressed such optimism.

Further, the poll now found that just 37 percent said ‘yes’ when asked if plan “is fair to people you.” In February, 59 percent perceived such fairness.

The new CBS News poll was conducted Thursday through Saturday with 1,184 adults. The nationwide telephone poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

The passage of Mr. Clinton’s economic plan by the House did not immediately improve the President’s standing with the public. In the CBS News poll, 37 percent of Americans approved of the way Mr. Clinton is handling his job as President, while 49 percent disapproved. Two other national polls, by Newsweek and Time magazine, taken just before the vote in the House, measured his job approval at a statistically indistinguishable 36 percent.

This level of job approval means Mr. Clinton’s overall standing with the public at this point in his term is the lowest of all Presidents since World War II, when measured at the equivalent point in their terms by the Gallup poll.

When asked specifically about Mr. Clinton’s handling of the economy, 33 percent in the CBS News poll approved, while 55 percent disapproved.

Although the President’s remarks today were clearly aimed at a mainstream Midwestern audience, he refrained from the Washington-bashing that had lately become a hallmark of such trips. Even when he offered criticism of Congress, it was muted. No Faith in Bureaucracy

“Some, but not all, in the national Democratic Party placed too much faith in the whole politics of entitlement, the idea that big bureaucracies and government spending demanding nothing in return can produce the results we want,” he said. “We know that is simply not true.

“On the other hand, some, but not all, in the national Republican Party have practiced the politics of abandonment, of walking away from common concerns like dropping test scores or rising crime rates or insufficient infrastructure or taking care of the people who won the cold war for us and now don’t have anything to do in the wake of defense cutbacks.

“Well, that’s not right either.”

Mr. Clinton also offered a lengthy critique of Reaganomics, normally a standard feature of his talks but one that took on a different flavor given his recent decision to hire Mr. Gergen.

“I think it’s fair to say that the only reason I was elected in 1992 is that the American people thought that it hadn’t worked very well, and that there were problems,” he said of the 12 years of Republican governance. “While the Government was used as punching bag — everybody talked against big Government — nobody ever really did anything fundamentally to reform the way it operates.”

The President is still smarting under the weight of a heavy dose of critical assessment. The cover of Time magazine featured an inch-high President with a stark, bold headline that said, “The Incredible Shrinking President.” And Newsweek magazine countered with a photograph of a troubled Mr. Clinton and a headline reading, “What’s Wrong?”

That wildeyed liberal bastard!

The omnibus budget bill he’s trying to sell in that speech was eventually voted against by every single Republican and quite a few Democrats, including that asshole David Boren. Al Gore had to break a tie in the Senate.

Here’s the outline of the crazy left wing thing:

  • It created 36 percent and 39.6 income tax rates for individuals.
  • It created a 35 percent income tax rate for corporations.
  • The cap on Medicare taxes was repealed.
  • Transportation fuels taxes were hiked by 4.3 cents per gallon.
  • The taxable portion of Social Security benefits was raised.
  • The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were permanently extended

Socialism, obviously.

I’m not saying that Clinton didn’t screw up. But if you look at what he actually did, it wasn’t playing too far to the left. He was one of the architects of DLC corporate politics and made a veritable fetish out of appeasing big business and wingnuts. It’s that he couldn’t manage his own Democratic egomaniacs, mostly in the Senate, and he allowed the Republicans and the villagers to poison the public against his program before he even had a chance to implement it, despite his constant capitulation to their demands. He could never control the narrative and it narrowed his options to small bore, incrementalist centrism, which is as far to the left as the political establishment wants any Democrat to go.

Jonathan quotes Kevin Philips writing in 1994 on Clinton, and if this is “too far to the left,” we’ve got serious problems:

Clinton came in. I’m not certain what he meant and how sincere his intentions were, but he ran against Washington and he came to Washington and he got rolled…

In part, he was self-rolled. He set himself up in different ways. It’s difficult to believe that he was 100 percent sincere in his outsider claims, because as soon as you start to see his modus operandi with all these Arkansas fat cats, it becomes clear that his way of dealing with things in Arkansas was to be part of the lobbyist crowd, to get contributions from the CEOs, and to basically work with them. In the context of Arkansas, he would have been slightly left of center, I suppose, but not in any way that he couldn’t work with Walton and Tyson and the whole crowd. He did. And Hillary was on the boards of some of those companies. So, we shouldn’t have believed it. He talked the talk, but he didn’t walk the walk.

When he came to Washington, who did he sign up? Lloyd Cutler, Ron Brown, Vernon Jordan, Mickey Kantor—obviously not people who were enemies of the lobbying establishment.

Then, when he did the tax and budget package, the administration made deal after deal after deal with lobbyists. They did the same thing on NAFTA. So basically, they legitimatized interest group politics by the way they behaved as well as the way he dealt with the insiders almost from the start.

Everybody says that the tough DLCer Rahm will make sure that this new White House will not make the same mistakes that Clinton did. I sincerely hope that’s true. One thing I do know is that this is not 1992. (I was a lot younger then.) If the Democrats are going to refight the last war, I sure hope they understand what actually went wrong in the last one. The villagers certainly don’t.

Update: I left out that Clinton also made the mistake of naming a couple of actual liberals to his cabinet. He was told by the village in no uncertain terms that they had to go and he withdrew their nominations. The result was that he nominated an Attorney General who appointed a special counsel every time the Republicans sneezed (even while the Democrats controlled congress.) And in his further zeal to appease these “critics” he appointed an FBI head who was a rightwing zealot and who actively conspired with Republicans against him. Let’s hope they’ve learned from those experiences as well.

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Neutralize Lieberman – Jim Martin for Senate

by dday

Today is Veteran’s Day, and six years ago, Saxby Chambliss perpetrated one of the more cowardly and despicable attacks on a veteran in recent political history, accusing multiple-amputee Max Cleland of disloyalty and producing an ad connecting him to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden (the core of the charge was because Cleland favored union rights for Department of Homeland Security employees, by the way – so it was an anti-union smear as much as it was a national security smear). Here’s what one prominent politician had to say about it:

“I’d never seen anything like that ad. Putting pictures of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden next to the picture of a man who left three limbs on the battlefield — it’s worse than disgraceful. It’s reprehensible.”

That was John McCain, who is later this month headed to Georgia to campaign with Chambliss in his runoff election against Jim Martin.

At least he still has his principles, right?

I will say that Saxby Chambliss is at least consistent. His contempt for veterans in the political arena is matched by his opposition to them on the floor of the Senate, voting against funding for the new GI Bill, traumatic brain injury research, proper amounts of time between deployments, and dozens of other initiatives.

Now, Chambliss is facing Jim Martin, an Army veteran who served one tour of duty in Vietnam. Neither candidate reached 50% in the November election, so there is a December 2 runoff scheduled. Barack Obama is sending aides to Georgia to work on the campaign, which will undoubtedly come down to turnout, and now it’s our turn. On Veteran’s Day, bloggers are having a national day of action to raise money and awareness for Martin. There are scattered events planned across the country, but you can visit this ActBlue page and give to Martin directly. Considering that not just McCain but Mike Huckabee and even Sarah Palin are scheduled to rush to Chambliss’ aid, it’s a chance to humiliate them once again.

But I want to look at it another way. The Georgia seat was not expected to be Democratic this year. Picking this one up in extra innings adds a vote on a variety of substantive issues – Martin looks to be pretty solid (here’s an interview between Martin and Matt Stoller – this is not Zell Miller revisited). And so all the wonder about Joe Lieberman’s status in the caucus would be made somewhat irrelevant. His bad vote on the war? Cancelled out by Martin’s? Veteran’s issues? The same. His bad positions on economic stimulus and other progressive issues? Martin would likely nullify those as well. His chairmanship of the Homeland Security committee? Lieberman shouldn’t have it, but Democrats are nearing a tipping point where they would gain extra seats on these committees (they are proportionally distributed), and thus it’s possible that adding Martin to the Senate would put enough Democrats on that committee to vote down any frivolous subpoenas Lieberman might be itching to issue.

I’m not saying it’s the only thing we can do – the calls and letters to Senators asking them to strip Lieberman of his gavel must continue. But one of the best ways we can marginalize Joe Lieberman is to put more Democrats in the Senate and make his votes meaningless. Help out Jim Martin today.

Bloggers for Martin

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They Just Keep On Rolling

by digby

Brave New Films has put together a nice little film featuring Joe Lieberman’s greatest hits during the campaign. I hadn’t realized he was actually pimping the Bill Ayres business:

Obama said today that he doesn’t hold any grudges and he’s going to leave it up to the caucus to decide (not that he could really do anything different.) But if Lieberman stays, I certainly hope he has eyes in the back of his head.

Think Progress has a dossier on Lieberman. So does Jane Hamsher. And both Brave New Films and Firedoglake have actions going to call senators to make sure they know you don’t want Lieberman anywhere near the Democratic caucus.

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Obama Meets With Dangerous World Leader Without Preconditions

by digby

H/T To BB

My God

by digby

Hindrocket:

Obama thinks he is a good talker, but he is often undisciplined when he speaks. He needs to understand that as President, his words will be scrutinized and will have impact whether he intends it or not. In this regard, President Bush is an excellent model; Obama should take a lesson from his example. Bush never gets sloppy when he is speaking publicly. He chooses his words with care and precision, which is why his style sometimes seems halting. In the eight years he has been President, it is remarkable how few gaffes or verbal blunders he has committed. If Obama doesn’t raise his standards, he will exceed Bush’s total before he is inaugurated.

Wow. Just wow.

What’s it like living in Powerline’s bubble?

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Getting Their Backs

by digby

According to CQ, the CIA is worried that Obama won’t “have their backs” when they do something wrong:

“I was with a group of intelligence officers today,” Roger Cressey, a counterterrorism official in the Clinton White House, said on MSNBC Thursday night, “and I think the most important thing for the president to say is, ‘We’ve got your back.’ That ‘we want you to take risks — risks that conform with our law and our values as a country.’

“What the intelligence community is afraid of more than anything is the game of ‘Gotcha,’” Cressey said. “Which is, if they make a mistake, a well-intentioned mistake, the White House doesn’t support them, they’re left out to dry, and Congress crushes them. And then you get into that risk-averse mentality, which we saw for awhile. So that is what they want. They want support, so they know that the president is going to be behind them. But also that he’s going to lead them.”

I doubt that there will be any problem if these “risks” actually do conform to our law and values — and aren’t stupid plans that were done without being properly understood, like the Bay of Pigs.

This article discusses a scenario in which the CIA blows up a car they mistakenly believes contains bin Laden, and asks whether or not the Obama administration will stand by them. But that’s not what this is really all about. It’s important to remember that this was at the heart of what Cheney and Addington’s War On Terror legal reasoning was all about. The John Yoo Torture Memo of 2002, was written at the CIA’s request that the Bush administration “get their backs.” Just last March Bush vetoed the bill which would have required the CIA to adhere to the rules set forth in the Army Field manual in order to protect the CIA from being held culpable for torture.

The CIA will put a lot of pressure on Obama over this. They even got the ambitious wimp McCain to vote against the Field Manual (anti-waterboarding) bill, despite what it might do to his reputation, on the heels of his earlier cave-in on the Military Commissions Act. They are dead serious about being allowed to do what they feel “needs to be done” with the full backing of the president. And they always hold the security of the United States hostage when they do it (“we’ll become too ‘risk averse’ and then you’ll all die!”)

Up until now, we have been dealing with electoral necessities (or what the Democrats perceived as being electoral necessities.) Now we are going to see perceived institutional necessities coming to the fore and the Democrats are going to have a much different relationship with these issues than they had before.

On torture, there can be no more blurring of definitions. There is plenty of scholarship that shows that there are better ways of obtaining reliable intelligence. Torture is not only immoral, it’s lazy and counterproductive — and is likely used most often out of some misplaced notion that being known to be brutal and ruthless is helpful to America’s reputation. That is wrong. The CIA needs to know up front that Obama will not have their back if they engage in torture — and that the torture legal framework under Bush is no longer operative in any way. There really is no other choice on this and I expect that he will do it. He knows very well that his foreign policy will be in complete shambles the minute it is leaked — and it will be — that the Obama administration has sanctioned torture, either through commission or omission. His great opportunity across the world to prove that America has changed will be lost.

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Quisling

by digby

So Obama has told the Democrats that he wants them to leave Joe Lieberman alone.

He will regret it. Joe Lieberman is a sanctimonious egomaniac who has no sense of loyalty or gratitude and he will stab Obama in the back as often as possible. He may even use his subpoena power on the Homeland Security Committee (which they are going to have to let him keep) to harrass him on behalf of conservative interests. It’s a huge mistake to keep him in the caucus where he will have knowledge of their strategy and legislative tactics. He will be the first one called upon to “speak for” Democrats who are unhappy with Obama’s inevitable “overreaching.” He is a mole for the Republican party.

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