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Month: November 2008

Taser Incident Of The Day

by digby

A lawyer was stunned with a Taser twice this afternoon after he became upset at a Tampa Code Enforcement Board meeting, police say.

Tampa lawyer Carl Roland Hayes, 53, was addressing the board when he became irate and verbally abusive, said Lt. Ronald McMullen of the Tampa Police Department. Officials asked Hayes to calm down, but he did not, McMullen said.

As Hayes was being escorted out of the meeting, he slapped an officer’s face, McMullen said.

An officer used a Taser, but it had no obvious effect, police said. Hayes started “fighting and flailing,” McMullen said, and an officer had to press the Taser against Hayes’ body to “drive stun” him.

Those poor cops must have been terrified when slapped that officer. He’s lucky they had the tasers or they would have had to mow him down in a hail of gunfire.

Here are a couple of nice comments to the story:

Posted by ( kooch ) on 11/26/2008 at 07:44 pm.

Wow…he looks like a partner at Uhuru & Uhuru attorneys at law. He was probably trying to arbitrate a dealing crack in a hood zoned only for chronic.

Posted by ( Lawrence ) on 11/26/2008 at 08:29 pm.

Hey Attorney, Cute Photo, Someone passed the Bar exam for you? You can’t buy CLASS, even if you have the Uhuruooos on your side. Go back to filing your racial complaints.

h/t to NO

Whining For Honor

by digby

Paul Waldman says “let the whining begin.” And I think you know who holds the world record in the sport:

Over the last eight years, many conservatives, particularly the radio and television hosts who enjoy such loud and lucrative megaphones, have been forced to navigate some difficult rhetorical waters. When your side controls the White House, the Congress (as it did until two years ago), the judiciary, and the business world, how do you argue that you’re part of an oppressed group being held down by The Man? It isn’t easy, but they did it nonetheless. The “elite” they bellowed at day after day is not those who actually hold power. It’s obscure college professors, Hollywood actors, the city council of a town you don’t live in, and nonprofit organizations who advocate for things like poor people or the environment or civil liberties. That’s the source of your problems, they would say, and that’s who you should be mad at. So the coming transfer of power must make them feel light as air. Now when they begin their daily pity party, they’ll actually be able to complain about the people in charge.

They seem to be getting back into full blown victimization mode with a couple of fairly bizarre fixations on issues that aren’t even on the agenda. the first is this freak out about the Fairness Doctrine, which Obama has said categorically he isn’t going to try to reinstate — and this run on gun stores, which is apparently precipitated by talk radio going nuts:

They are egged on by the likes of G. Gordon Liddy, who despite being a convicted felon and unrepentant terrorist (among his unconsummated plots were the murder of columnist Jack Anderson and the firebombing of the Brookings Institution) is blessed with a nationally syndicated radio show. Liddy, who during the Clinton years told his listeners, “If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you, and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they’re going to be wearing bulletproof vests,” Today, he advises his faithful flock to break whatever laws on gun registration that might apply to them. “The first thing you do is, no matter what law they pass, do not — repeat, not — ever register any of your firearms,” Liddy recently said. “Because that’s where they get the list of where to go first to confiscate. So, you don’t ever register a firearm, anywhere.”

Recall that William Ayers preached armed resistance to the government 40 years ago. Liddy, 40- minutes ago.

I’ve been discussing the relationship between right wing victimization and Lost cause mythology for a long time on this blog. Waldman links to a recent one in which I talked a littler bit about the fact that the Republican Party really is the Southern Conservative party now with distinct regional folkways. But he also makes another interesting observation which applies to the same concept:

This kabuki of complaint is built on a running series of imaginary slights. Democrats said that being the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, isn’t really an adequate preparation for the presidency? They’re attacking small towns, and the people who live in them! Democrats want to get out of Iraq? They’re attacking our troops! Democrats point out that the immortal Joe the Plumber would actually fare better under Barack Obama’s tax plan than John McCain’s? They’re attacking guys with blue collars everywhere! Not that progressives haven’t spent the better part of the last eight years complaining. But most of those complaints have been about things the Bush administration actually did, not some imagined offense to progressives’ honor.

This is an important insight as we look at right wing victimology — it’s based upon old fashioned notions of honor that still characterizes certain corners of southern culture, but which has been incorporated into American conservative thinking at large as it adopted these regional folkways as its tribal norms. (The book Southern Honor by Bertram Wyatt Brown explains the whole “honor” mystique in great depth and it’s probably as good a guide to the victimization reflex as anything.)

I found this interesting article through Mr Google (I have no idea who wrote it, but it tracks with the points of Wyatt’s book quite closely) about the southern honor tradition:

From colonial times, most southern white males prided themselves on adhering to a moral code centered on a prickly sense of honor. It was honor, writes historian Bertram Wyatt-Brown, that provided “the psychological and social underpinning of Southern culture.” Such a preoccupation with honor was common among Germanic and Celtic peoples. (Scottish, Irish, Scotch-Irish, Cornish, and Welsh) from whom most white southerners were descended. It flourished in hierarchical rural societies where face-to-face relations governed social manners.

The dominant ethical code for the southern white elite derived from Protestant religion, classical philosophy, and medieval chivalry, and it depended upon a rigidly hierarchical social system, where one’s status was defined by those above and below. Its elements included a combative sensitivity to slights; loyalty to family, locality, state, and region; deference to elders and social “betters”; and an almost theatrical hospitality. It manifested itself in a fierce defense of female purity, a propensity to magnify personal insults into capital offense, and in public statements such as the following toast proposed by a South Carolina corrupt: “The Palmetto State: Her sons bold and chivalrous in war, mild and persuasive in peace, their spirits flushed with resentment for wrong.

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Southern men of all social classes were preoccupied with an often reckless manliness. As a northern traveler observed, “the central trait of the `chivalrous southerner’ is an intense respect for virility.” The duel constituted the ultimate public expression of personal honor and manly courage. Although not confined to the South, dueling was much more common there than in the rest of the young nation, a fact that gave rise to the observation that southerners will be polite until they are angry enough to kill you. Dueling was outlawed in the northern states after Aaron Burr killed Alexander Hamilton in 1804, and a number of southern states and countries banned the practice as well–but the prohibition was rarely enforced.

Amid the fiery debates over nullification, abolitionism, or the fate of slaver in the territories during the antebellum era, clashing political opinions often provoked duels. In Virginia, a state senator and a state representative killed each other in a duel. Many of the most prominent southern leaders engaged in duels–congressman, senators, governors, editors, and planters. The roster of participants included Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, Sam Houston, Jefferson Davis, William Crawford, John Randolph, and Albert Sidney Johnston.

Obviously, we haven’t had a lot of deadly duels in the congress lately, but this sheds some light on why so many conservatives (who have adopted many of these archaic cultural behaviors, either from their own regional identification or because they are temperamentally inclined to it) see political opposition as a form of personal insult.

*Standard Disclaimer: I’m not casting aspersions on southerners in general or their history. Southern is just another word for “American” and I criticize all kinds of Americans for a lot of different things. I’m talking specifically about Republican conservatives in 2008 and the political culture they’ve developed.

Making It Up

by digby

Stirling Newberry has written an interesting historical piece on why this nonsense about how the New Deal was a failure. It’s worth reading the whole thing, but this is particularly interesting to me:

In the US it was realized that the great pressure on people who are unemployed is debt, this is why they undertook debt relief, the real thing, by programs such as the HOLC. Why didn’t it lead to recovery sooner? Why, an outbreak of economic orthodoxy led to balancing the budget in 1937, and plunged the economy into a second recession. But the architecture of the New Deal held, waiting for the moment when it could uncoil and create a new economic order which survives to this day. What the right wing, then, and now, played on was jealousy of working people for each other. It was Boss Tweed that observed that you can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half of the poor. Let’s not fall into that trap.

Right wing governments often actually institutionalize such things, and some did, during the Great Depression. It didn’t work out very well for them — or anyone else. We dodged a bullet on that one, thank goodness. For now, at least.

Center Of The Universe

by digby

Am I the only one who finds it fairly offensive that the TV networks are obsessing about whether or not this Mumbai terrorist attack was really an attack against America?

Yes, it appears that the targets were tourist destinations, and there is some question about western hostages, but the endless speculation about possible American deaths when they are showing pictures of dead Indians all over the place is just unseemly. A terrorist attack in India has many possible motives, so it’s a little bit arrogant to assume it’s an attack against Americans. After all, there was a large coordinated attack against Indian trains a few years back that was committed by Hindu extremists. It’s a big country with a whole lot of people.

Not everything is about the United States.

Update: I should be clear — it certainly could have been targeted at Americans and be an attack “on Americans.” But CNN is just frothing over the possibility when there’s very little information to that effect at this point.

Holding The Country Hostage

by digby

Jack Goldsmith tells us that if there are any prosecutions or further investigations into the torture regime the lawyers who give presidents legal advice in the future will feel constrained and we’ll all be killed in our beds. This is, of course, the same thing we were told about the warrantless wiretapping: we have to allow these telcom industries to have amnesty or they won’t cooperate in the future and we’ll all be killed in our beds. Or , as Goldsmith reiterates at some length, we have to let the CIA be immunized for torture and kidnapping because if we don’t they’ll be afraid to be “aggressive” and the terrorists will kill us all in our beds. Again and again, we are told that the only way to keep us “safe” is for the government to be allowed to “take the gloves off” and break the law with impunity. This is blackmail. Allow us to do whatever we want or the country gets it.

If these lawyers advise the president to break the law they should be prosecuted like any other lawyer who advises a client to break the law. I suspect that isn’t an easy thing to prove, but the principle should always apply. And from what we know of the legal reasoning for the torture regime, it was based on the Nixon doctrine of “if the president does it must be legal” which kind of negates the necessity of legal advisors in the first place. Any of these people could have resigned — they’re not indentured servants. They didn’t. They enabled and encouraged and they are responsible. If they didn’t want that responsiblity, and all that implies, they shouldn’t have taken the job.

Goldsmith himself stood up to the administration and insisted that certain programs be changed to conform with legal norms. What do you suppose would have happened if he hadn’t? If there hadn’t been a James Comey in the department or if John Ashcroft hadn’t risen, ghostlike, from his sickbed and said that he had delegated his authority to Comey? Are we supposed to just trust that there will always be people like that around who will step up? Are we also supposed to trust that they always did step up? We still don’t know what those programs were all about, despite what Goldsmith says, and God knows how many others there are out there that haven’t been revealed. (Just saying that congress was informed is no longer something we can depend upon either. They are covering their asses too — and they are just as culpable if they knew about this and didn’t say anything. ) If this is the new governmental principle we live by, then let’s dismantle the whole justice system and depend upon the “good guys” to make sure the “bad guys” don’t go overboard when they are “keeping us safe.” We’ll call it an authoritarian democracy and save a lot of money.

These people are being deeply unpatriotic if they say they won’t keep the country safe because they are afraid of being prosecuted. In our system, if the law needs changing there’s a process for doing it and constitutional principles that guide it. If in the end, a lawyer or a CIA agent or a president breaks that law out of what they believe is patriotic duty, then a jury can assess whether or not that’s something for which they should be punished and they should be willing to face that.

I suspect that a lot of the lowly torturers and legal advisors did this sort of thing either out of career opportunism or cowardice or a blinkered willingness to follow orders and they know they are the ones likely to be prosecuted for the crimes that were devised by those above them. After all, as a smart person pointed out to me the other day, it’s not like we haven’t tried and convicted some torturers already — the Abu Ghraib bad apples are serving hard time. The Big Bosses are all busy writing their memoirs. And that’s precisely why the leadership should be subject to prosecution. In fact, prosecuting the leadership is a good argument for immunizing the rest — they do that every day in our justice system.

I do not accept this idea that in order to keep the country safe we have to allow all these people to break the law and suffer no consequences. It’s a complete inversion of the entire system. The reason we have a constitution and a bill of rights in the first place is to keep the citizens safe — from the government. If you can throw it out because some nutcase blows up a building it’s very hard to see why the police can’t throw it out when they are dealing with gang members or drug lords or common murderers. After all, their job is to “keep us safe” too. Why is that any different?

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, 9/11 was a heinous crime, to be sure, but our leadership used the attack as an excuse to endow the presidency with untrammeled, unitary power. That is a crime against the constitution and it is an extreme weakness of our system that the president wasn’t impeached and then prosecuted for what he did. It’s really not too much to ask that the nation at least be fully informed of what happened, even if Bush and Cheney end up spending their elder years in comfort and safety behind the walls of their estates. That we can’t expect even that much is truly a sad comment on our so-called democracy.

After all, despots and tyrants always do what they do in the name of “keeping the country safe.” It’s the oldest excuse in the book.

Update: Greenwald goes further into detail on Goldsmith’s absurd plea. This is supposed to be one of the heroes of the Bush administration …

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Spooking The Spook

by digby

Oh my goodness, the mean liberal blogs spiked John Brennens’ possible nomination to CIA or DNI. Greenwald has the details at his place.

It’s very nice to be seen as being so fearsome, but I suspect this has more to do with Obama’s foreign policy. He simply cannot be seen around the world to be backtracking on torture, Gitmo and the rest. If he insists on not investigating or prosecuting anyone for past crimes, which unfortunately seems likely, then he absolutely must make it clear through his appointments, public statements and actions that the practice has ended.

The New York Times characterizes Brennan’s withdrawal it in somewhat hysterical terms:

… the episode shows that the C.I.A.’s secret detention program remains a particularly incendiary issue for the Democratic base, making it difficult for Mr. Obama to select someone for a top intelligence post who has played any role in the agency’s campaign against Al Qaeda since the Sept. 11 attacks.

There are obviously many members of the intelligence community who have “played a role”in the agency’s campaign against al Qaeda” who were not among George Tenents top lieutenants when the practice of torture was institutionalized. If there aren’t, then we have bigger problems than I realized.

In any case, I’m gratified that liberal blogs are considered critics with enough stature to sink a potential CIA chief. We’ve come a long way. If that means that anyone who had knowledge of this torture regime and failed to unequivocally denounce it in clear and unambiguous terms, simply cannot hold high office in the intelligence community, then we’ve done well.

Let The Word Go Forth

by digby

This is just great: Sally Quinn is telling Barack and Michelle where they should worship. I hope they do as she says. If they don’t they will be subject to her waspy wrath for the next eight years.

There are rules, my friends, Village rules:

Sally Quinn: The biggest difference is that entertaining now is so much more partisan. When I first came here, you’d go to dinner and all different political persuasions were represented. You were all working for the same country, but you differed in what you thought was best for the country.… The people who did the entertaining were women who today would have a career, and what they did for a living was to bring people together. At parties, a lot of news was made and deals were made.

Maureen Orth: When the Clintons came to town, in 1992, there was tangible excitement that these two attractive young couples, the Clintons and the Gores, would somehow revive Camelot. Instead, the Clintons got off to a shaky start, with the issue of gays in the military, Nannygate, the suicide of Vince Foster, Travelgate, the failure of Hillary Clinton’s health-care plan, and Whitewater. There were so many scandals that the White House came to see the press as the enemy, and the First Couple did not venture out much, but they sent loyalists such as Mack and Donna McLarty, who were Arkansas friends, and Vernon and Ann Jordan to cover Georgetown. In the beginning, however, they also had a series of dinners in their private quarters. At one, which I attended with my husband, Bill Clinton gave a detailed tour of the Lincoln Bedroom. Later, that room would give rise to yet another scandal when it was revealed that wealthy donors were being invited to spend the night there. The Clintons did have a very lively, bipartisan engagement party early on for Bill’s adviser James Carville and his very Republican fiancée, Mary Matalin; they also entertained at informal “movie nights”; and they significantly helped the cause of peace in Northern Ireland by beginning an annual White House St. Patrick’s Day party, which both sides—who would never ordinarily venture into the same room together—attended. The Clintons, however, appeared in the end to view the White House not as a vibrant salon in which to host the best and the brightest, but as coveted real estate that could be used for fund-raising. Dee Dee Myers: The Democratic National Committee controlled who was invited. They brought in Clinton people from all over the country. They called it “political-base building” and the white-hot center was the White House. Los Angeles was huge. When the film-production company DreamWorks was being launched, I remember walking out of the grand hallway during a state dinner, and on a bench, deeply engrossed, were David Geffen, Steven Spielberg, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [the founders of DreamWorks]. The Clintons expanded the size of state dinners and had them in a tent. They had two or three events and lined them up for a week in the tent. They had the Emperor of Japan in a tent. The thing about the Clintons is that more is always more. It loses intimacy and grace. Liz Stevens: If some cause needed help, the Clintons were willing to have an event. The staff was exhausted. They were constantly feeding people. Sally Quinn: In terms of entertaining being partisan, it started with Clinton. The people who were seen as “hostesses” were people who had money or were raising money.… When the stuff about Clinton and women started appearing, in the second term, things shut down. Everybody wanted to go hide in a cave. For people willing to defend him, it became intolerable for them to go out.

Obama seems to have learned a lot from Clinton’s mistakes. Let’s hope he learned this too. The Village tabbies will not be ignooored. Word to the wise. One simply doesn’t invite the riff raff to the white house and one pays attention when one is told how to behave. Or else.
Oh, and by the way, our current, allegedly born-again president didn’t attend church at all for eight years unless there was a funeral. I don’t remember Quinn weighing in on that. But you can bet that if Barack and Michelle aren’t on their knees at “the Cathedral” in front of the villagers every Sunday there will be hell to pay.

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Just Don’t Call Them Bigots

by digby

I noticed in all the local news coverage of the Prop 8 protests that Mormons being interviewed were often furiously denouncing the idea that they were bigots. They seemed a bit puzzled and hurt by the accusation and very upset that anyone would accuse them of such a thing..

And you can see why. They have been part of an oppressed religion in this country, subject to all kinds of bigotry themselves. The irony of Mormons defending “traditional marriage” is so rich, it always struck me as somewhat unbelievable. Indeed, I thought this was some sort of campaign to cleanse themselves of the taint of being the Americans previously most likely to be discriminated against for their marriage practices.

But that doesn’t seem to be the case. The church is downplaying its involvement now:

Michael Otterson, a church spokesman, recently told the Associated Press that he was “puzzled” by the protesters’ targeting of Mormons. “This was a very broad-based coalition that defended traditional marriage in a free and democratic election,” he said. “It’s a little disturbing to see these protesters singling out the Mormon Church.”There are Mormons who fought hard against the measure, drawing attention to the extent of Mormon involvement by outing fellow members on donor lists. There are Mormons so upset they’re thinking of renouncing their church membership as well as Mormons who wholeheartedly supported the initiative. And then there are those who gave money out of obedience to their leaders, without much thought to the policy it was being used to support. Regardless of where they fall on this spectrum, many probably feel a bit like Otterson: uneasy with all the attention.

I have no pity for them. they spent many millions defending bigotry and they can’t expect that there will be no pushback. If they don’t like being called bigots, they shouldn’t be bigots.

The article points out that the Mormons are in a position to become huge players in the culture wars, with lots of money and growing political influence. And their signal achievement on Prop 8 has not gone unnoticed by the religious right who may be persuaded to forgive some of their more eccentric theology in return for their cooperation in more political activity. They are, after all, rich as Croesus.

It’s something to keep an eye on.

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Big Money

by digby

We are hearing more and more about those incredibly overpaid, cushy 70 dollar an hour autoworker jobs and if it sound fishy, it’s because it is. I know all of you remember that the UAW very recently had a big brouhaha with the auto companies (that’s what the Jim Cramer meltdown was all about) and guess what they created a whole new regime for pensions and health care — which are part of that 70 dollar an hour figure. It was only a year ago, but you’d think it never happened.

Anyway, here’s a great little piece By Jonathan Cohn on the real story, which points out something that is very inconvenient for the “right-to-work” politicians who are flogging the idea of bankruptcy: when the new UAW contract kicks in, the union members will actually be making less than non-union autoworkers.

In 2007, the Big Three signed a breakthrough contract with the United Auto Workers (UAW) designed, once and for all, to eliminate the compensation gap between domestic and foreign automakers in the U.S.The agreement sought to do so, first, by creating a private trust for financing future retiree benefits–effectively removing that burden from the companies’ books. The auto companies agreed to deposit start-up money in the fund; after that, however, it would be up to the unions to manage the money. And it was widely understood that, given the realities of investment returns and health care economics, over time retiree health benefits would likely become less generous.In addition, management and labor agreed to change health benefits for all workers, active or retired, so that the coverage looked more like the policies most people have today, complete with co-payments and deductibles. The new UAW agreement also changed the salary structure, by creating a two-tiered wage system. Under this new arrangement, the salary scale for newly hired workers would be lower than the salary scale for existing workers. One can debate the propriety and wisdom of these steps; two-tiered wage structures, in particular, raise various ethical concerns. But one thing is certain: It was a radical change that promised to make Detroit far more competitive. If carried out as planned, by 2010–the final year of this existing contract–total compensation for the average UAW worker would actually be less than total compensation for the average non-unionized worker at a transplant factory. The only problem is that it will be several years before these gains show up on the bottom line–years the industry probably won’t have if it doesn’t get financial assistance from the government.

At this point it’s up to all those really smart guys in suits and ties (who are naturally worth every penny of their salaries because they’re such superior humans) to figure out how to keep the companies going. The unions did their part already.

One things pretty clear. The Republicans aren’t angling for bankruptcy because they want to protect their own own non-unionized auto industry from competition. They just want to break the unions because the opportunity is there and it’s what they live for. And the result will be that wages will probably go down for their own constituents. Of course, the presumes that their constituents are people who live in their states and districts. If you look at the bigger picture it’s clear that their constituents are those who stand to make a profit from lowering wages.

Ti Many Mortoonis

by digby

I don’t know who this Republican Senator is, but he sounds drunk:

“Jeb Bush could do so much for our party, but his name is Bush,” the senator says. “Maybe he should use his middle name, Ellis — Jeb Ellis! Or I could adopt him, and he could use my name!”

Like Atrios, I wonder why in the hell Roger Simon is giving anonymity to sitting US Senators to have a stream of consciousness dialog that should have remained inside his own head. But that’s our village.

This is priceless, though:

“We have to become much more attuned to the rhetoric and issues that Hispanics care about,” the senator says. “We have to talk about education, family, and moral issues like gay marriage and abortion.”

Yes, they really should stop hiding their position on those issues. It’s killing them.