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Month: October 2009

Twofers

by digby

About a year ago I participated in an interesting discussion about which good policies are also good politics. In fact, the discussion ended up being about how to advance good policies that always advance good politics. In other words, how do you package policies in such a way that they end up empowering liberalism and the long term health of the progressive movement.
(The conservatives were very good at this, and have even institutionalized some of it with “paygo” and the like.)

In this interest essay, Andrew Sullivan makes the case (ruefully) that the opt-out may just be one of those policies. In fact he calls it “lethal” to conservatism and “Chicago style-politics” although he lets Obama off the hook. Food for thought.

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Revenge!

by digby

Ah, it was so predictable:

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) told reporters today that he would in fact filibuster any health care bill he doesn’t agree with–and right now, he doesn’t agree with the proposal making its way through the Senate.

“I told Senator Reid that I’m strongly inclined–i haven’t totally decided, but I’m strongly inclined–to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don’t support the bill that he’s bringing together because it’s important that we start the debate on health care reform because I want to vote for health care reform this year. But I also told him that if the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage. Therefore I will try to stop the passage of the bill.”

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Lieberman is saying that he’s pretty much OK with letting senators offer amendments–try to change the legislation, move it in any direction they deem necessary. But when that process is all over, and Harry Reid wants to hold an up or down vote on the final product, Lieberman’s saying he’ll join that filibuster, if he’s not happy with the finished product. Point blank.

I kept hearing in private conversations that everyone was sure that good old Lieb wouldn’t join the filibuster. No way, no how. After all “he’s with us on everything but the war.” But it always seemed absurd to me to trust good old Lieb since he’s become a bitter, angry, resentful, creepy, arch conservative, vengeful old fuck (which isn’t all that different than he always was, but he used to be a little bit constricted by his religious image.)

I’ve also heard speculation that good old Lieb made a deal when he kept his seniority and committee chairmanships that he wouldn’t join Republican filibusters. I guess that’s not true — or people in high places aren’t holding him to it.

There are a whole lot of possibilities here. This could be Senate kabuki, it could be the White House working with Joe, it could just be Joe hogging the spotlight as usual. But whatever it is, there’s nothing he loves more than stepping up at a moment when the momentum is running the right way — and pulling it up short. It’s his specialty.

The day Al Gore picked Lieberman as his running mate, I was devastated. This was why. In fact, his not becoming Vice President in 2000 was the only silver lining in that whole ugly mess of an election.

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Opting In

by digby

In this interesting article about how the “opt-out” came to be, is this sobering little detail:

But skepticism from the White House isn’t the only hurdle that remains. While a host of Democrats, including the administration, publicly praised Reid for standing by an opt-out public option, internal whip counts indicate that there are approximately 57 votes for the proposal. Convincing the remaining three caucus members that the bill should be allowed to get an up-or-down vote remains an uphill lift.

I think we can feel pretty confident that two of them are Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson. The third could be any number of spoiled egomaniacs, corporate lackeys or conservative sell-outs, but is most likely Landrieu, who is probably holding out for some very substantial goodies which the president can best deliver. (The word is that Lieberman is on board to block the filibuster.)

Howie speculates about what will work with our good friend Blanche:

But… even knowing that Reid has spoken to all members of the caucus in the last week and even knowing what a cautious guy he is about presenting legislation that can’t pass… Well, the question is this? Is he telling Blanche Lincoln that if she doesn’t vote for cloture– we don’t need her on the bill, just on cloture to shut down the GOP filibuster– she can’t get her pony (her pony being the chairmanship of the Senate Agriculture Committee, the source of all riches and power in her hideous world).

We don’t know if they are going that direction but if they are, it is very likely to work. Nothing on the planet is more important to her than the Ag Committee chairmanship, something that just landed in her lap and which she will be loathe to lose.

That leaves Nelson. And I’m guessing he is going to play chicken. Does he want to be the guy to go down in history as the one Democrat to tank health care reform? Is Reid willing to placate him by abandoning the public option?

Whatever happens, Chuck Todd is reporting today that the White House is telling Reid that he’s on his own. Here’s Brian Beutler:

According to Todd, the White House is telling Reid, “You’re the vote counter, but don’t come crying to us when you need that last vote. That said, I’ve also been told, OK right now it’s this ‘opt-out,’ the compromise could end up being the ‘opt-in’ and maybe this is what Reid was doing here–going with the ‘opt-out’ so the ‘opt-in’ was the compromise rather than the trigger being the compromise.”

That’s a lot of jargon, but to break it down, it sounds like White House officials are telling Todd two things.

First, they won’t be there for Reid if he runs into political trouble keeping his caucus together for settling on a compromise (the opt-out) that is likely to cost him all Republican support.

Second, they seem to be telling him that this may be a gambit on Reid’s part to do compromise down further, rather than simply settling on the lowest common denominator (the trigger) right away.

I know that Chuck Todd is a tool and by itself, I wouldn’t necessarily give this report any credence. But it tracks with everything else we’ve been hearing. The White House doesn’t give a damn about the public option and, it’s obvious, would rather have some Republicans on board than have any particular element in the bill. There is no bottom line. (You know, when Roosevelt said “make me do it” I don’t think this is exactly what he had in mind.)

Now the question is whether or not Reid is actually defying them or if there’s a longer game involved. Howie Klein and I both speculated yesterday about whether Reid would end up substituting Opt-in for Opt-out if push came to shove. It’s sounds silly, but I could see it happening. Cloture vote fails, Reid comes right back with Opt-in as the substitute and gets Nelson and Lincoln — maybe even Snowe as a late conversion. The problem being that Opt-In is unworkable and basically kills the public option. Villagers won’t know the difference and will present it as basically the same thing. (They are dumb. If you don’t believe me, read this by Adam Green.)

This would be a very, very, very big mistake on Reid’s part. Ezra writes today about how much liberals have already compromised and it’s kind of stomach churning to see it all laid out. (Considering how much shit we’ve taken for being “unreasonable” and how every villager has spent the last few months opining how terrific it was that the Democrats were slapping their liberal base in the face, I suppose we’re lucky that they haven’t decided to allow insurance companies to deny coverage based on voting record.) Doing something cute like that would unleash a firestorm. Opt-out is only being accepted as a way to get the public option into the conference with the (slim) hope that they can get something better. Opt-in isn’t the same thing and unlike the Villagers, we know it. Reid and the President will get no credit if they do this. None. Indeed, it will be seen as a betrayal of the highest order.

If the plan here is to placate the base, dangling the half baked opt-out compromise and getting liberals to sign on, then pulling it back in favor of some cute “sound alike,” it would be so insulting I think they might just blow the whole thing up. It would take a lot to get liberals to vote against a health care bill, but if they want to test it, treating them like idiots might be a way to do it.

Update: Chuck Todd tells Greg Sargent that we aren’t supposed to take what he says literally. Good to know.

But in case you were wondering there’s other evidence as well. Here’s John Amato on Ben Nelson.

I’ve been hearing from my sources that the ConservaDems in the House of Lords (The Senate) would rather have states be able to “opt in,” rather than “opt out,” of the public option in health-care reform. No matter how you feel about these proposals, the one Ben Nelson supports is a far, far worse plan than the other. Here’s what he said on CNN’s State of The Union:

KING: If there is a vote and Harry Reid needs 60, have you promised him, even if you disagree with the proposal and might vote no on the proposal, you would give him your vote on the procedural issue?

NELSON: I have made no promise. I can’t decide about the procedural vote until I see the underlying bill. It would be, I think, reckless to say I’ll support the procedure without knowing what the underlying bill consists of. And it’s not put together yet. It’s a draft — it will be a draft bill some time next week, submitted the Congressional Budget Office for the review of the cost. And until I’ve seen a completed draft…

KING: Well, let me — let me jump in, can you support…

NELSON: … I’m not going to…

KING: Can you support a public option where states could opt out so there is a public option in the federal legislation, or will you only support a public option where the state would have to opt in, so there is not a national program already created?

NELSON: Well, I certainly am not excited about a public option where states would opt out or a robust, as they call it, robust government-run insurance plan. I’ll take a look at the one where states could opt in if they make the decision themselves.

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Le Hameau de la Potomac

by digby

I have been getting a huge number of hits today from Greg Sargent’s old blog post about the genesis of the term “the Village” which I eventually traced to this post today by John Aravosis, who hadn’t heard the term and didn’t know where it came from.

I have explained this before but I think it’s worth repeating once in a while since the term is actually fairly common in the blogosphere. Greg is right that it stems from the notorious Sally Quinn article about the Clintons. But it’s more than that. It’s shorthand for the permanent DC ruling class who have managed to convince themselves that they are simple, puritanical, bourgeois burghers and farmers, even though they are actually celebrity millionaires influencing the most powerful government on earth.

It’s about their phoniness, their pretense of speaking for “average Americans” when it’s clear they haven’t the vaguest clue even about the average Americans who work in their local Starbucks or drive their cabs. (Think Tim Russert, good old boy from Buffalo, lately of Nantucket.)It’s about their intolerable sanctimony and hypocritical provincialism, pretending to be shocked about things they all do, creating social rules for others which they themselves ignore.

The village is really “the village” an ersatz small town like something you’d see in Disneyland. And to those who argue that Versailles is the far better metaphor, I would just say that it is Versailles — a very particular part:

A Picturesque Little Village
Part of the grounds near the Trianon were chosen by Marie-Antoinette as the site of a lakeside village, a crucial feature of picturesque landscape gardens then so fashionable among Europe’s aristocracy. In 1783, Richard Mique built this amusement village where the queen played at being a shepherdess.

In 1784, Marie-Antoinette had a farm built, where she installed a farming couple from the Touraine region, along with their two children. They were charged with supplying the queen with eggs, butter, cream and cheese, for which they disposed of cows, goats, farmyard animals.

The Village is a metaphor for the faux “middle class values” that the wealthy, insular, privileged, hypocritical political celebrities (and their hangers-on and wannabes) present to the nation. (And no John, I’m not talking about you. DFHs are definitely not welcome 😉

Update: Reader JW writes in with this as well:

Everything you say about the term is true, but I also feel it is appropriate to add one additional association: Kafka’s “Das Schloss.” There is “The Village” and there is “The Castle.” The Villagers are supposedly people just like the narrator, but he can never seem to understand them, and they block his access to the Castle and its inhabitants. They are not IN the administration, but they are its minions, almost unconsciously.

yes.

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Pantload Unloads

by digby

Jonah Goldberg sez:

The Democrats came into power in 2008 thinking they had a huge mandate for liberalism, when they really had a huge mandate for competence (for want of a better word). Obama and his coterie misunderstood this. They used a lot of ‘pragmatic’ rhetoric, but they governed from the left, starting with the calamitous stimulus bill. Obama’s personal popularity is still sustaining him, but it seems to me that the Democratic Party missed an enormous opportunity. I don’t think they’re doomed or anything like that. But, they’ve managed to rebrand themselves as a very liberal party again, and that’s a problem when 80% of Americans don’t describe themselves as liberals.”

Unfortunately for Jonah, the Republicans have managed to rebrand themselves from an epic screw-up party to a batshit crazy party, and that’s a problem when 99% of Americans don’t describe themselves as epic screwups or batshit crazy. I’ll take our chances.

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How Do They Sleep At Night?

by digby

From dday:

In a conference call with reporters today, three Democratic Senators charged Republicans with obstructionism in all aspects of public policy, particularly stopping the Senate from passing a bill that would extend unemployment to millions of Americans, at a time when 7,000 Americans a day are losing their benefits.

Sens. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) and Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) vowed to move forward with a motion to proceed on the unemployment bill, tied up with non-germane amendments (about things like ACORN funding and E-Verify which have already been voted on in the Senate in other forms) from Republicans that “amount to a political agenda” in Stabenow’s words, as soon as tomorrow. “The votes are there to pass this bill,” said Shaheen. Stabenow said that the bill could have passed a few weeks ago. read on …

I’ve been writing about this for the past two weeks and I can’t believe it’s still going on. They just don’t give a damn about actual human beings. And neither do the village media who never seem to find room to mention this atrocity. (Maybe the Democrats could get it passed if they told the Republicans they were giving the benefit to fetuses.)

I don’t know about you, but I’ve needed extended unemployment in my life, back in the 1981 recession. When you are desperately looking for a job and you can’t find one, and then your unemployment runs out, you are on the verge of panic. It’s a very scary position to be in. And these jackass Republicans are holding up this vital lifeline over some political bullshit that even the teabaggers have long since lost interest in. Some things you just don’t screw around with in an economy like this and unemployment insurance is one of them. It’s a crime and they are going to go to hell for it.

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Opt Out Opt In

by digby

So the good news is that Reid is bringing the public option with an opt-out clause to the floor, which implies that he has enough votes to break the filibuster. (The alternative was to bring a plan to the floor without the public option and let individual Senators bring it up as amendments.) Opt-out is the least bad compromise available for the reasons that Josh Marshall spells out here. It creates the national plan that is necessary to achieve the kind of economy that’s required to affect costs.

I think Reid deserve some credit here. He’s been under tremendous pressure to essentially bring the Finance Committee bill to the floor and have a flurry of various failing kabuki amendments on the public option so the Villagers could say “I told you so.” But he’s been under a lot of pressure from his left as well, and not just from the netroots, but from his own caucus, which is a hopeful sign. Jay Rockefeller, for instance, has been surprisingly tough. Reid went the right way today and took reform another step in the right direction.

Having said that, it’s premature to get too excited. There are many shoals ahead. This is one possibility:

Reid’s apparent intent to move ahead with a public option, including an opt-out, has led some Senate aides to suggest Reid is readying a strategy in which he might lose the cloture vote but then quickly bring to the floor a bill with a compromise public option designed to attract more centrists. That approach would reduce the chance of attacks from liberals by proving that the votes are not there for a more robust public option, an aide to a centrist senator said.

That sounds suspiciously like a “centrist” Senator’s wet dream, but it could happen. Reid will find himself in a world of hurt if it does, but maybe he figures he can get reelected on the “I did the best I could” platform. If there is any truth to it, it sounds like the idea would be for Lincoln or Nelson (probably) to join the filibuster and have Reid come back with a noxious alternative like “opt-in” that would be too confusing for the Villagers to parse. If that’s the case, perhaps there is a liberal Senator, either out of principle or because he or she’s up for reelection in a Blue State, standing by to join the filibuster of that noxious bill. (Senators Sanders and Dodd, call your offices.) I won’t hold my breath, but you never know…

Still, this is good news, and as I said, that anonymous senate staffer could just be blowing smoke. After all, the village declared the public option dead a long time ago. They assumed that Reid and the Senate would never deliver something the liberal base demanded in a million years. That’s just not the way things are done. So, even if Reid’s announcement today was only another step in a process that can still end up failing either on the merits or the politics, it’s a very, very good sign that the progressive caucuses in both Houses are flexing their muscles and pressing ahead.(McJoan outlines some very hopeful signs for more.)

Going into conference with a public option in both Houses is looking more and more possible by the day. Of course, then the President weighs in heavily, probably as as a mediator between the two Houses rather than a leader for the public option, and we have no idea where that leads. It ain’t over til it’s over.

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Tell Me This Isn’t Torture

by digby

Listen to the screams:

A cell phone video shows San Jose police officers repeatedly using batons and a Taser gun on an unarmed San Jose State student, including at least one baton strike that appears to come after the man is handcuffed, as they took him into custody inside his home last month.

The video, made by one of the student’s roommates without the knowledge of police, shows that force was used even though the suspect was on the ground, and apparently offering no physical threat to the officers. Several experts in police force said the video appears to document excessive — and possibly illegal — force by the officers. A police spokesman Friday said the department had opened a criminal investigation of the officers’ conduct, after police officials viewed a copy of the recording.

The confrontation arose as Phuong Ho, a 20-year-old math major from Ho Chi Minh City, was arrested on suspicion of assaulting another of his roommates. He faces pending misdemeanor charges of exhibiting a deadly weapon and resisting arrest. Ho admits picking up a knife as he argued with a roommate. He was not armed when police arrived.

“It takes me back to the day I saw the Rodney King video on TV,” said Roger Clark, a certified policing expert and a retired lieutenant with the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department, where he served for 27 years.

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Among the issues noted by the outside experts:

# Ho remains on the ground, moaning and crying, as he is repeatedly struck. He does not appear to offer significant resistance, suggesting
the high level of force is not necessary.

# The officer most visible in the sequence stands for much of the time in a casual posture, at one point with his legs crossed. He seems to show no concern that the situation is potentially dangerous — raising additional questions about why force was being used.

# The final baton strike appears to occur after the handcuffs can be heard snapping onto Ho’s wrists. That particularly troubled several outside experts.

“That’s a felony,” said Clark.

It should be a felony to shoot people full of electricity for no good reason too.

I’ve been writing about this stuff for years now. And there are many, many examples of cops using the taser on people who are not violent, are in custody, and are on the ground. It happens all the time. What distinguishes this incident is that it’s considered excessive force to administer the baton blows, but not the taser.

You tell me if you can distinguish those screams of pain were from blows or the taser? And why should it matter?

And, by the way, they both leave marks:

At the hospital, the police report said, Ho was treated for a Taser burn and received staples to close several wounds, including the blow to his head. Siegel reported that he strained his right wrist during the incident.

After he spent most of the night in jail, Ho was released, then limped home. It took him two hours, he said, ruefully laughing about his television-bred misconception that officers would offer him a ride home. When he got home, he cleaned up and walked to his morning finance class. He was 30 minutes late.

h/t to kk

Drug Involvement

by digby

A couple of bad helicopter crashes in Afghanistan today make this one of the worst single days of the war there. I was interested to hear that DEA agents were among those killed because their involvement was controversial for a number of reasons, not the least of which was this:

As the Obama administration ramps up the Drug Enforcement Administration’s presence in Afghanistan, some special-agent pilots contend that they’re being illegally forced to go to a combat zone, while others who’ve volunteered say they’re not being properly equipped.

In interviews with McClatchy, more than a dozen DEA agents describe a badly managed system in which some pilots have been sent to Afghanistan under duress or as punishment for bucking their superiors.

Such complaints, so far mostly arising from the DEA’s Aviation Division, could complicate the Obama administration’s efforts to send dozens of additional DEA agents to Afghanistan as part of a civilian and military personnel “surge” that aims to stabilize the country.

Veteran DEA pilot Daniel Offield has alleged in an employment discrimination complaint he was told if he refuses to go to Afghanistan in July he’ll be demoted. The Stockton, Calif., agent asked for a reprieve because he was in the process of adopting two special needs children and offered to serve his required temporary duty in other countries.

Another agent, David Beavers, told McClatchy that he was ordered in July 2007 to prepare to go to Afghanistan in two weeks while he was on bereavement leave after his mother-in-law died. To avoid going, the Orlando, Fla., pilot decided to retire early.

Both men have flown for the DEA in Latin American countries wracked by drug violence, but they say service in a combat zone should be treated as voluntary because they’re not military personnel.

“You could say that the war on drugs is dangerous,” said Beavers, a DEA pilot for more than 20 years. “But it’s not quite like Afghanistan, where you can get your legs blown off by an (improvised explosive device).”

One wonders if these DEA agents who were killed today were among those who were “drafted” into Afghanistan.

It seems that our two abstract, endless Orwellian wars — the War on Drugs and the War on Terror — have officially merged. And the complications stemming from that decision are going to be immense. What are we fighting for again?

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Teabag Fun

by digby

Whenever I get too frustrated with my liberal brethren I spend some time over at the astroturf ersatz grassroots online organization Resistnet reminding myself of what the teabaggers are up to. It never fails to put things in perspective.

I wrote the other day about the teabaggers Next Big Thing, which is Countdown to Judgment Day. (Never say they are too subtle…) They have launched the new Teabag Express II, which is going all across the country spreading the good word, culminating in the national launch of the 2010 campaign to throw the Democrats out of office. Their stated philosophy is this:

Let’s stand up and stop the bailouts, cap and trade, out-of-control spending, government-run healthcare, and higher taxes! We’re back and determined to take our country back!

No word on what they’re for, but I think it’s evident, don’t you?

They have a message board, which is a lot of fun to read. I particularly like this one:

HOW TO CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMAN TO SHUT DOWN CONGRESS OVER HEALTH CARE – The Way Gingrich Did In The 1990’S (over taxes) – simple, fast and effective

They are all furiously writing to Republican congressmen telling them to emulate Gingrich and shut down the government. It’s kind of adorable.

But it’s also kind of scary how dumb they are. Gingrich shut down the government in 1995 and it was widely considered the main impetus for Clinton winning re-election the next year. It didn’t help that Gingrich himself admitted that he did it out of personal pique:

I won’t even mention the procedural issues that made it possible or the fact that the Republicans were in the majority. That’s a little too complicated for the folks.

But hey, if it keeps them busy I’m all for it. Write your congressmen teabaggers and tell them to follow Gingrich’s example as Speaker of the House. It was always good for our side.

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