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Month: December 2009

The Further Adventures Of The Crown Prince

by digby

Can someone translate this for me?

Shuster: it’s so striking that this thing that progressives are pushing for is that Medicare which is a government program that gets expanded so that it includes people as young as 55 years old. I know it’s early, but is there any indication that the Democrats — that the Progressives — are getting a pushback on that particular piece of it from the centrists?

Lil’ Luke Russert: Well you have to remember David, that one of the main issues that the centrists have up here, both in the Senate and in the House is, “do we have the infrastructure available here in the Unites States to take on more types of folks on Medicaid and Medicare”. A lot of folks in the House, the Blue Dogs in rural areas said we do not have the infrastructure being able to take in all these people.

That is what the progressives right now are using as their bargaining chip. Will we go back on the public option, perhaps allow you get Medicare recipients down at 55, but my guess is they’re going to have to have a serious look at the CBO as to how much that would cost and how that would affect the deficit. It’s not cheap to put 55 year olds on Medicare by any means, David.

Anybody speak this village patois?

FYI: I’m pretty sure nobody’s talking about just “putting 55 year olds on medicare.” They are going to have to pay premiums to get into it, just like any other insurance plan, and will only be allowed to stop paying when they hit 65. (This will be on top of paying into medicare for their retirement…) But what do I know? Lil’ Luke is the professional NBC News journalist and he seems to think we’ll all get “put on” Medicare at 55. Yea!

Meanwhile, this whole “bargaining chip” with the rural area Blue Dogs stuff is way beyond my meager understanding. I guess that’s he makes the big bucks.

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No Daylight

by digby

Kos sez:

Politico reporter Daniel Libit sends me this query:

Working on a story with another reporter about the increasing similarity between Barack Obama’s policies and Hillary Clinton’s primary platform and whether Democrats might have viewed the primary differently if they knew then what they know now. Would love to get your thoughts on the state of buyer’s remorse. Might you be able to send me something before day’s out?

Ferchristsake. Please, please spare us any more Drudgico stories about “the left.” Dredging up the primaries is nothing more than cheap link bait, designed to create a story where none exists. The left has been pushing Obama hard from the moment he took office, which seems to come as a surprise to the denizens of the village who assumed that everyone would spend the next four years sitting around playing the “I Got A Crush on Obama” Youtube on a loop while muttering “yes we can” under our breath. The only one who who seems to have actually done that is Tom Hayden, and when he finally looked up he felt, like, so totally betrayed.

Clinton and Obama are both mainstream Democrats who occupy exactly the same political terrain in the party and always did. That’s what made the primary so bloody. It was about personal identification, style and aspiration — the differences between the two camps were never about policy because there was no substantial difference in their policies.

This is a trumped up story about nothing. But then, that’s the Politico’s specialty.

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Yes We Should

by digby

From a personal perspective, this would be a godsend:

Senate Democrats are discussing the idea of expanding Medicare by lowering the age at which the elderly could enter the government-run insurance program, Democratic sources on the Hill tell the Huffington Post.

The proposal would lower the age of eligibility for Medicare from 65 to 55, though an age limit of 60 has also been suggested. Crucial details — such as the timing of the implementation of such a reform — were not provided due to the sensitivity and ongoing nature of the deliberations. A high-ranking Democratic source off the Hill confirmed that such discussions are taking place.

The huge group of baby boomers in my age group (the second wave) are facing an unbelievable squeeze and the latest versions of the public option aren’t going to help us much, especially in high cost states, unless we are really doing badly financially. I ran the numbers for myself and the reforms will probably end up costing me more, although my coverage will hopefully be better. Allowing me to buy into Medicare at 55 would be a huge relief.

As a good progressive I’m not basing my support for the public option on my own personal situation. But I do worry about the political ramifications with respect to this huge demographic between 50 and 65 that’s likely to have very mixed results in this health care reform just as they are dealing with aging parents, college aged kids, lower pensions, loss of housing equity, insecure employment and deteriorating health. If they are nervous about health care reform it’s going to cost the Democrats. The seniors are already falling away.

This would go a long way to alleviating their concerns.

Update: Atrios is exactly right. I amend my statement:

This is a terrible idea that only a centrist, moderate, corporate lackey, right wing teabagging villager could love and I will fight it with my last breath! Betrayal!

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Infamy

by digby

12/7/41

After Pearl Harbor, everything changed.

There was widespread anger and at times hysteria. Reports of violence against Japanese Americans swept across the country.

Many Americans stood guard along the West Coast, fully expecting Japanese troops to storm the California coastline.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the executive order allowing internment camps on Feb. 19, 1942.

In Hawaii, far fewer people of Japanese descent were confined to internment camps. Still, Kakugawa remembers the hostility and the many questions about patriotism.

“We were truly American. We sang patriotic songs in school,” she said in a recent interview. “For a child, it was a time of pure confusion. I know I felt strongly about being American and still do.”

It was a long time ago. But I think we all know that under the right circumstances, how easily that reaction could all happen again.

Tom Friedman:

“Yeah, my criticism of myself would be that after 9/11, I overreacted. and I think as a country we overreacted,” Friedman said.

Which is exactly what they hoped for.

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Public Enemy

by digby

They would have had to shoot him:

An “out of control” 10-year-old foster child was shocked with a Taser and arrested by sheriff’s deputies Monday in Pueblo West.

Capt. Jeff Teschner, head of patrol at the Pueblo County Sheriff’s Department, said Wednesday that the deputies involved were justified in their use of force.

[…]

Mondragon said that when deputies arrived, the boy ran away from them holding a 2-foot-long pipe.

“This lad, we have a long history of (him) running away. I don’t know what his entire psychological profile is, but obviously he has emotional distress,” Teschner said.

[…]

Teschner said that because of the tight quarters the boy was in, stunning the child with a Taser was a more effective way of arresting the youth rather than using pepper spray.

“They couldn’t get close enough to deploy pepper spray without putting themselves in danger,” Teschner said.

Myers deployed the Taser at the boy, who then dropped the pipe, and Mondragon arrested the boy… The boy was booked into Pueblo Youth Center on suspicion of menacing with a deadly weapon…

[…]

“It’s important to use best judgment and consideration anytime you deploy these devices, whether it’s an old person or a young person. We followed all our policies and procedures, and I think in this particular instance, (the Taser) was used in an appropriate effect,” Teschner said.

People can easily buy tasers for personal use. Does this mean that parents can use them on little kids who are having temper tantrums? It sure will make parenting a lot simpler.

Update: I keep reading that this was a brilliant move because nobody got hurt. And I guess except for the horribly painful electric shock that’s true.

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Luxuries

by digby

The head of the Republican Party says that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is for those who can afford it:

He’s really just being honest. That’s how they feel, which is why anyone who calls themselves conservative who isn’t a millionaire is a fool.

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Guess He Showed Us

by digby

Peggy Noonan is enjoying a little holiday cheer in the afternoons:

A deep and perhaps the deepest benefit of the speech was that a Democratic president asserted compellingly, and with a high degree of certitude and conviction, that the United States is and has been immersed in a long struggle with intractable enemies.

For eight years we heard this from Republicans. Halfway through those years people began to tune the president out: He was acting on a Republican obsession and approaching it with the usual Republican tear-jerking bellicosity. The Democrats for eight years had been removed from daily national responsibility—the party out of power always is—and in any case it’s always easier to question and criticize than to know and make a decision. But to have now a Democratic president surveying essentially the same history and data as his predecessor and coming to the same rough conclusion—we are in a real struggle with bad people, it will go a long time—was encouraging, and seemed to mark a two-party sharing of overall authority and investment.

Yes, it did. Sadly.

That said, it appears we’re seeing some things we’ve not seen before. The president of the United States gave a war speech, and the next day the nation didn’t seem to rally around him. This is not the way it’s gone in the past. Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, George W. Bush—when they addressed the nation about the wars they led, they received immediate support.

This is also the first time we’ve seen an American president declaring, or rather redeclaring, a war without a political base. Again, LBJ, Nixon, George W. Bush—they always had a base that would support them, on which they could rely and from which they could maneuver. But Mr. Obama’s base is not with him on this decision.

Ok, first of all there’s this:

Americans agree with the Afghanistan policy Barack Obama announced on Tuesday night at West Point in large measure because they agree with the arguments the president made in that speech, according to a new national poll.

In his prime time address at the U.S. Military Academy, where Obama spelled out his decision to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to the war, the president stressed that America’s safety and security are at stake in Afghanistan. A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national survey released Sunday morning indicates 64 percent of Americans agree with the president, with one in three saying the country’s safety and security is not at stake in Afghanistan. According to the poll, 63 percent of people questioned also agree with Obama that the U.S. action in Afghanistan is morally justified.

“That’s one major way that Afghanistan is different from Iraq in the public’s mind,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “At the time of the Iraq surge in 2007, most Americans questioned whether that war was justified.”

Hookay, so Noonan is totally mistaken on all points. The public did “rally” to president Obama’s surge announcement and they didn’t actually rally to Bush when he announced his. And the idea that LBJs base was with him is just well … loopy. Noonan must have been nipping on the communion wine this week-end. She’s wrong about everything.

But she soldiers on:

Can a president fight a war without a base? Will the American people, on this issue, decide to become his base? In the end what they decide will likely determine the ultimate outcome in Afghanistan.

I guess that makes sense if you think the president’s current base is a) not American or b) not human. (Once again reinforcing the truism that wingnuts don’t believe liberals are Real Americans.)

Peggy was obviously too busy matching her pearls to her sweater sets back in the 1960s when this last came up to have noticed what was going on, but she needs to put down the eggnog and pick up a book. Support for this war among all Americans is about an inch deep. And no president can afford to lose his base.

But in the Village, the most important thing a president can do is punch the hippies, so Peggy is quite impressed with his willingness to do so.

She says all us liberals think West Point cadets are monstrous freaks and lectures us about how they aren’t any such thing (after which the strawman in her pants exploded into flame.) Then she tells us that Obama is an egomaniac, unlike Bush, who allegedly never used the word “I” in his speeches.

Right. Anyone remember this?:

And I will carry this: It is the police shield of a man named George Howard, who died at the World Trade Center trying to save others. It was given to me by his mom, Arlene, as a proud memorial to her son. This is my reminder of lives that ended, and a task that does not end.

I will not forget this wound to our country or those who inflicted it. I will not yield; I will not rest; I will not relent in waging this struggle for freedom and security for the American people.

Finally, she complains that Obama was “faux-eloquent,” which makes people “want to gouge out their eyes and run screaming from the room.”

Ah yes. How well I know that feeling:

From the beginning it was a story marked by the miraculous. It was a miracle a six-year-old boy survived the storm at sea and floated safely in an inner tube for two days and nights toward shore; a miracle that when he tired and began to slip, the dolphins who surrounded him like a contingent of angels pushed him upward; a miracle that a fisherman saw him bobbing in the shark-infested waters and scooped him aboard on the morning of Nov. 25, 1999, the day celebrated in America, the country his mother died bringing him to, as Thanksgiving.

And of course this Saturday, in the darkness, came the nightmare: the battering ram, the gas, the masks, the guns, the threats, the shattered glass and smashed statue of the Blessed Mother, the blanket thrown over the sobbing child’s head as they tore him from the house like a hostage. And the last one in the house to hold him, trying desperately to protect him, was the fisherman who’d saved him from the sea–which seemed fitting as it was Eastertide, the time that marks the sacrifice and resurrection of the Big Fisherman…

Mr. Reagan would not have dismissed the story of the dolphins as Christian kitsch, but seen it as possible evidence of the reasonable assumption that God’s creatures had been commanded to protect one of God’s children. And most important, the idea that he would fear Mr. Castro, that he would be afraid of a tired old tyrant in faded fatigues, would actually have made him laugh. Mr. Reagan would fear only what kind of country we would be if we took the little boy and threw him over the side, into the rough sea of history.

urp

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Calling The Shots

by digby

Yesterday I wondered whether the president would come up to Capitol Hill today and finally lay down his own bottom line on health care reform, which Democratic Senators were insisting he needed to do to break the logjam.

Harry Reid just emerged from the meeting and said this about the Pubic Option:

Q: Senator Lieberman said that the president didn’t mention the public option.Is that true and do you think that that’s significant?

Reid: The President didn’t say a lot of things. Senator Lieberman said that to me after the meeting also. But that doesn’t mean it’s not an issue just because the president talk about it.

If anyone’s still wondering where the president stands on this, he stands where he always stood. On the side. Either he doesn’t give a damn or he doesn’t want it, you choose.

Senator Lieberman, on the other hand, clearly wants nothing other than to stick it to the liberals. That is why he’s against the PO. And he wants everyone to know that. He’s a vindictive, nasty piece of work and he doesn’t care about his reputation, his legacy, his relationships or the future of the country. It’s all about him. And the president and the majority leader seem to think, as always, that it’s better to appease Holy Joe and let him win.

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Eating Our Seed Corn

by digby

This is just sad:

In 1960, a committee of educators working under the leadership of the visionary University of California President Clark Kerr handed Pat Brown, an equally farsighted governor, something he’d long hoped for: a master plan for higher education in California.

Brown and Kerr shared a desire to create a system that would simultaneously encourage academic excellence and equality of opportunity for students of every class and background. They succeeded beyond even their expansive dreams and, in the process, created not simply a network of world-class academic institutions but also a great engine of social progress and prosperity for the California economy.

The plan guaranteed the top 12.5% of the state’s high school graduates places in the UC system; the top one-third of graduates were assured places in the state colleges; and free community colleges were open to all. A graduate of the latter’s two-year programs was guaranteed admission as a transfer student to a university or state college. Fees and books at those institutions amounted to a few hundred dollars a year.

A special legislative session passed the plan as the Donahoe Higher Education Act and, within short order, slightly more than half of all California high school graduates were attending college — in an era when less than a third of all Americans went on to higher education. The public universities’ burgeoning web of affordable professional schools amplified the system’s effect. Its contribution to the decades of unparalleled prosperity that followed can’t be calculated.

Of all the damage that has been done in recent years by Sacramento’s habitual flight from fiscal responsibility — particularly during the disastrous Schwarzenegger years — none has been more injurious or perverse than the budgetary mistreatment of the state’s universities and community colleges. Starved for adequate funds, what was once California’s greatest guarantor of social mobility based on merit has become, in fact, a force for the growing inequality that threatens this state’s future.

We did this to ourselves, under the influence of decades of anti-tax propaganda and corporate sponsored referenda designed to choke the system, finally culminating in the silliness that drove us to stage a recall circus that installed a cyborg in the Governor’s mansion. We have now reached the zenith of Randian achievement and are a completely dysfunctional government. Huzzah.

It’s a cautionary tale: as California goes, so goes the nation.

h/t to bb