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No, Stoller and Sullivan: There is no liberal conflict over Ron Paul by @DavidOAtkins

No, Stoller and Sullivan: there is no liberal conflict over Ron Paul

by David Atkins

A few days ago, Matt Stoller wrote a post declaring liberals to be hypocrites over what he presumes to be their ad hominem mistreatment of Ron Paul. Says Stoller, progressives are forced to attack Paul’s character, because Ron Paul is the true progressive who puts the lie to the ideals of those benighted so-called progressives who support the evil, awful Democratic Party and its war machine–a machine somehow managed and supported via the Federal Reserve, another of Paul’s and fellow conspiracy mongers’ betes noires. Stoller states these things matter-of-factly, as if Paul’s anti-choice racist Objectivism were a mere sidelight to the real issues facing the country, whatever those might be, and as if America had somehow less of a bellicose history prior to the Woodrow Wilson Administration, or even the Lincoln Administration than it does today.

Stoller’s post is an incoherent mess, but has earned the praise of civil-liberties-above-all-else bloggers like Glenn Greenwald, and holier-than-thou anti-partisan types like Andrew Sullivan. Here’s Greenwald:

As Matt Stoller argued in a genuinely brilliant essay on the history of progressivism and the Democratic Party which I cannot recommend highly enough: “the anger [Paul] inspires comes not from his positions, but from the tensions that modern American liberals bear within their own worldview.” Ron Paul’s candidacy is a mirror held up in front of the face of America’s Democratic Party and its progressive wing, and the image that is reflected is an ugly one; more to the point, it’s one they do not want to see because it so violently conflicts with their desired self-perception.

and Sullivan:

Which is why, whatever happens to his candidacy, Paul has already achieved something important: the broadening of debate, the scrambling of right and left, and the appearance on our toxic public stage of a man who seems to say what he thinks without much calculation or guile.

As usual, this is all so much hogwash.

Liberalism is and has always been about intervention. It is the opposite of libertarianism, and always has been. Liberals understand that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Left to their own devices, people with weapons and money will always try to exploit and dominate people without weapons and money unless they are stopped from doing so. It is not because we are taught to do so. It’s just innate human nature. If this were not the case, libertarianism would work as an ideology. It does not, and never has at any point in history.

When the government steps in to stop a corporation from dumping noxious chemicals into a stream, that is intervention at the point of a gun, by a superior force against a lesser force attempting to exploit the weak and powerless. When the government steps in to enforce desegretation in schools, that is intervention at the point of a gun, by a superior force against a lesser force attempting to exploit the weak and powerless.

When Abraham Lincoln and the North decided not to allow the nation of the Confederacy–and make no mistake, it was a separate nation with separate laws and an entirely separate culture–to secede from the Union, in large part because the North had an interest in ending slavery in the South and in striking down a competing agrarian economic system, that too was intervention by a superior force against a lesser force attempting to exploit the weak and powerless. To this day, many Southerners feel that their land is being occupied by an illegitimate and invading power, and theirs a Lost Cause that will rise again.

This is what liberalism is. It is unavoidably, inescapably paternalistic in nature. It is so because it understands the inevitable tendency of human beings to be truly awful to one another unless social and legal rules are put in place–yes, by force–to prevent them from doing otherwise.

Conservatives use force of government as well, of course, but not in defense of the weak and oppressed, but rather to maintain the power of money, of patriarchy and of the established social pecking order. Where the oppressive hand of government helps them achieve that, they utilize it. Where libertarian ideology helps them keep power in the hands of the local good old boys, they use that instead.

But a liberal–a progressive, if you will–is always an interventionist, because a liberal understands that society is constantly on a path of self-perfection, in an effort to use reason and good moral judgment to prevent insofar as possible the exploitation of one person by another.

The division between liberals lies in how far to intervene, especially in foreign wars. Almost all would agree that intervention in World War II against the Nazis and Imperial Japanese was the right thing to do. Most would agree that intervention in Kosovo was the right thing to do to stop the ongoing genocide there. Certainly, conservatives at the time opposed involvement in either conflict. Some liberals believe that America should use its power of intervention to help the oppressed around the world by use of force if necessary. Most others understand that such moves, even if well-intentioned, cause more problems and harm than they solve. But there will always be disagreements between liberals about whether, how much and where to intervene in the world in order to stop bad people from doing bad things that either threaten America, or simply threaten to oppress the poor and the weak. Not, of course, that America’s war machine is always or even usually used with such good intentions; quite the contrary. It is usually used for the conservative purpose of exploiting and destroying people and resources for the benefit of the wealthy. But here we speak only of liberal ideology and its relationship to the use of military force.

Similarly, liberals have a conflict when it comes to economic intervention. A few on the left choose to pursue a very hard line of intervention toward economic egalitarianism, leading to a vision in line with Communism. More of us tend to see the need for substantial economic intervention on a capitalist substrate, and lean more toward Democratic Socialism. Others see the need for some intervention, but are wary to stepping too far into the middle of the “free market,” which makes them more Neoliberal. But in all these cases, the question is only a matter of degree.

It is no accident that the most fervent economic interventionists on the left have also turned out to be the most imperial and bellicose (e.g., the Soviets and the Chinese.) They believe most in the necessity of force to prevent exploitation by the holders of capital, and see no reason why that necessity should stop at their own borders.

Contra Stoller, there is indeed a conflict within liberalism, but it is precisely this: a matter of how much intervention is necessary. It is not a fundamental conflict of ideals.

Which leads us to Ron Paul, a man whose detestable ideals are directly in opposition to those of liberalism–even if he happens, like a stopped clock, to end up in the right place a couple of times for entirely the wrong reasons.

Ron Paul is against the drug war, yes, but for the same reasons he is against preventing factories from dumping mercury in our rivers: he opposes any sort of intervention at all by the government to assist those in need, or to stop those who would do harm to others, except in the most simplistic cases of the use of force.

Ron Paul is against foreign interventions, yes, but for the same reason he opposes providing healthcare to sick people: he believes that the U.S. government should not be in the business of interfering against almost anyone, on behalf of anyone else.

Unless that person is a fetus, in which case state intervention is apparently just fine. Or unless that interference is taking place by, say, the State of Alabama, in which it’s just fine, as opposed to the evil jackboots in Washington, D.C. trying to tell those good Alabamans just what they can and can’t do with gays, undocumented immigrants, and women seeking abortions.

Ron Paul is a detestable creature who presents no challenge at all to liberal orthodoxy properly understood. I have never found him challenging, nor has DougJ at Balloon Juice:

So you’ll have to excuse me for not wanting to participate in all the navel-gazing about what liberals “should” think about Ron Paul. The guy has flirted with strapping young buck racism (as well as anti-Semitism) since forever, not just via his (ghostwritten) newsletter but also in his (presumably not entirely ghostwritten) book. His economic ideas would—in my opinion—probably devastate the American middle class.

For a liberal like me, who is primarily interested in the well-being of the American middle-class and in providing opportunity for everyone in the United States, regardless of race/ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion etc., I just don’t see why I should be “challenged” by Ron Paul. I understand that if you’re a liberal who is primarily interested in civil liberties and a less bellicose foreign policy, then you might be conflicted about Paul. But to me, he’s just another racist asshole who wants to fuck the American middle-class.

It’s true that some liberals are so legitimately incensed by President Obama’s transgressions on civil liberties that they are inclined to support Paul in the same way that a person obsessed with illegal immigration might support a hardline anti-immigration Democrat over a Republican like George W. Bush or John McCain. But both of those cases are standard single-issue monomanias. Neither case speaks to any sort of real ideological hypocrisy.

The only people truly in need of introspection are the self-described progressives who seem to be conflicted about Ron Paul. They might want to re-examine what liberalism is, why it is, what its origins are, and how it has manifested itself throughout history. It has very little to do with libertarianism of any kind.

Update: Stoller writes, correctly, to point out that he never said that Paul was a progressive. He’s right, and I apologize for that. But the point here is that he maintains that 1) Paul holds more “progressive” positions than many supposed progressives, 2) that progressives are forced to use specious attacks on Paul to avoid confronting their own demons; and 3) that the federal reserve is somehow responsible for America’s belligerence on the world stage. None of those three things are true.

Carrying the torches

Carrying the torches

by digby

FYI:

All things being equal Gary Johnson looks like a better civil liberties choice than anyone else in the field (although I do find myself somewhat shocked that not one candidate stands absolutely against torture.) Unfortunately, Johnson takes the states’ rights cop-out too, so the effect of his more tolerant stands would have the practical effect of creating less freedom for a substantial number of people.

The problem is there’s this, which the ACLU doesn’t score:

Johnson believes the United States is on the verge of an economic collapse that he compares to the 1998 Russian financial crisis, which he believes can be stopped only by balancing the federal budget. As such, he promises to submit a balanced budget for the year 2013 and promises to veto any bills containing expenditures in excess of revenues. He promises to look at every decision as a cost-benefit analysis. His budget would cut federal expenditures by 43% in every area, “across the board,” including “responsible entitlement reform,” because the “math is simple: federal spending must be cut not by millions or billions, but by trillions.” He calls the notion “that we can control spending and balance the budget without reforming Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security” “lunacy.” Johnson supports amending the U.S. Constitution to require an annual balanced budget.

Johnson did not support the Troubled Asset Relief Program, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010, or any other “bailout” or “stimulus” bills, and opposes President Barack Obama’s proposed American Jobs Act. He believes the federal spending in these laws is wasteful and ineffectual, and calls them “bloated.” He famously quipped, “My next-door neighbor’s two dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than this current administration.”

Johnson supports ending the federal personal and corporate income tax system and replacing it with the FairTax reform proposal, a national consumption tax on new goods and services. He believes the FairTax would “reboot” the American economy without impacting those at or under the poverty level, who would not be subject to it. He believes that abolishing the federal corporate income tax, which he says is the second highest in the world, would create tens of millions of jobs immediately. Due to his stance on taxes, David Weigel described him as “the original Tea Party candidate”.

I think that’s pretty cracked. But then that’s why, despite my lifelong opposition to most of the “Democrat wars”(as Bob Dole used to call them) and my strong belief in civil liberties, I’m an egalitarian, liberal Democrat instead of a laissez-faire, libertarian Republican. I just don’t agree with more than 1% of that economic vision. (And the weepy Masters of the Universe have confirmed all my worst suspicions about what kind of world we can expect with them being left entirely to their own devices.)

Still, if I were a libertarian, I think I’d expect my candidates to ditch this states’ rights cop-out. Human rights are human rights and the US “states” aren’t sacred institutions allowed dispensation to infringe them any more than the federal government is. “States’ rights trump individual rights” isn’t exactly a universal principle. It’s not as if we don’t have a very colorful history to inform us in this regard.

But let’s get real here and take a good look at that chart. Unless Paul unexpectedly gets the GOP nomination or Johnson suddenly surges as a third party candidate, we are assuredly looking at GOP nominee who is basically an authoritarian nutcase across the board. There’s not even the tiniest bit of daylight there. Good God.

Update: Oh my:

“Then, in summer 2008, Johnson started seeing Kate Prusack, a passionate cyclist and Santa Fe Realtor. Early in their courtship, Johnson gave her a copy of Ayn Rand’s free-market manifesto ‘Atlas Shrugged.’ ‘If you want to understand me, read this,’ he said.”

*Disclaimer: I’m not saying Barack Obama is better than Gary Johnson on civil liberties. But he is substantially better than Mitt Romney and marginally better on many other things I also care about. My perfect political idol unfortunately isn’t running, although there are some really good anti-war, social justice, egalitarian liberal candidates down ticket.

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Why do conservatives hate Americans? by @DavidOAtkins

Why do conservatives hate Americans?

by David Atkins

Given the Right’s recent lurch toward Ayn Rand-style Objectivism, it seems that an intelligent journalist would put the following facts together:

It’s not exactly a leap in logic to point out that mainstream conservatism now maintains that 80% of Americans are simply ungrateful, lazy bastards who need tough love to do better.

In that context, trying to get rid of Social Security and Medicare makes sense for them. But shouldn’t someone start asking, then, why conservatives have such contempt for the vast majority of Americans, and their work ethic? It’s not a hard question to ask. The politics of it may be controversial, but the logic isn’t.

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Dazed and confused

Dazed and confused

by digby

There’s a lot of chatter about Ron Paul among lefties these days, some of which I’ve addressed here, here and here. Apparently there are quite a few liberals and progressives who normally vote Democratic who are going to vote for Ron Paul instead. Many have decided to support him based upon Obama’s national security and civil liberties apostasies. Others are hoping to hasten what they see as the inevitable destruction of the political system in order to get on with it. (What “it” is remains a bit vague.)

But on the ground in Iowa, where the first votes are about to be cast tomorrow, the reasoning is a bit more … eccentric:

Rep. Ron Paul, in a tight race for first place in Iowa with Mitt Romney, is perhaps the most likely to benefit from Democratic crossovers. His campaign is distributing information sheets advising Iowans that they can register Republican “for a day” on caucus night, then switch their registration back afterward if they want.

“It’s easy. You can register on your way in the door,” David Fischer, co-chairman of Paul’s Iowa organization, told voters Thursday at a campaign stop in Atlantic.

John Long, a registered Democrat, said that “last time, unfortunately, I believed a lot of the rhetoric” and voted for Obama, after going to a Democratic caucus as a Joe Biden supporter. Long feels that job-crushing regulations have gotten worse under President Obama, who he said had failed to end the “embarrassing” political spectacle in Washington, in part because he was too weak to stand up to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, the Democratic leaders in Congress.

The 65-year-old semi-retired accountant plans to vote for Paul at a Republican caucus in West Des Moines. “Ron Paul has a lot going for him, particularly in the economic area,” he said. Long doesn’t care for the Texas congressman’s isolationist foreign policy but says that no candidate is perfect and that Paul “is principled enough not to say stuff just to get elected.”
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Cheryl Hout, an Obama voter from Osceola, Iowa, said she “fell for” Obama in 2008 “because he’s such a good speaker,” but now calls the president “a liar.” The 54-year-old special-education teacher is very unhappy that he didn’t deliver on the change he promised, especially with a healthcare plan whose implementation has been much too slow to meet her family’s medical needs. She and her husband, Terry, 63, an independent who says his Obama vote was “a mistake” and who has never attended a caucus before, plan to vote for Paul.

“We’re looking for something new to revive the country,” she said. “We’re so close to losing our whole country. China owns us. They could just walk right in and take us. It’s scary.”

Ooookay.

I’m reminded of this very insightful piece by Chris Hayes, about how some voters make their decisions. It’s well worth reading again as we go into campaign season in earnest.

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Teens react to Rick Perry’s “Strong” by @DavidOAtkins

Teens react to Rick Perry’s “Strong”

by David Atkins

This is almost like beating a dead horse at this point given Rick Perry’s irrelevance to the GOP race, but this video posted a few days ago is priceless:

Republicans are screwed with the younger generation, particularly on the social conservative front. Libertarianism is making some dangerous ideological inroads, as the only people unafraid to be against insane foreign interventions and insane drug policies also happen to be in favor of insane Objectivist domestic spending policy. If Democrats don’t figure out that the future lies in taking more progressive stances on social issues, foreign policy and drug policy, they’re going to get flanked by libertarian nutcases who will implement objectively horrible domestic spending cut policies.

But the traditional conservative base is dying and it isn’t coming back. The kids are all right.

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Failure to prosecute bankers leads to revolutionary, divisive politics by @DavidOAtkins

The failure to prosecute bankers leads to revolutionary, divisive politics

by David Atkins

There has been some conversation among liberal bloggers about the Occupy protests and the recent moves even by liberal mayors to remove the campsites. Many like myself have argued that America is supposed to be a nation of laws, after all, and a representative democracy. Constitutional democracy depends on rule of law. The people vote on representatives who make laws. If the representatives don’t make the right laws, they get replaced in elections. Judges make sure the rights of minorities are protected from the rule of the majority mob. Executives are supposed to enforce those laws–which gets tricky, of course, when it’s the executive who is allegedly breaking the law, but let’s bypass that special case for a moment because it’s not the point of this post, nor the lawbreaking most Americans are really concerned about.

If the people’s representatives continue to refuse to make the laws, the people can engage in civil disobedience and get arrested to highlight the issues, again to shame elected officials into passing or enforcing the right laws. But it’s still about the laws and the people who make them, democratically elected by the people. It’s one thing to engage in civil disobedience with the expectation of being arrested as part of the visibility of the protest. It’s another thing to expect that authorities will simply ignore the flagrant legal violations and allow indefinite encampments without arrests.

Still, elected officials have more moral authority than mobs of people by virtue of their being elected. That’s the whole point of representative democracy which, as Winston Churchill dryly noted, is the worst form of government–except for the others that have been tried from time to time.

One can argue that the system is so hopelessly corrupted by money that the laws are inherently unjust and the officials not worth dealing with, but that is the logic of revolution, of systemic collapse. And that goes to some very uncomfortable places, especially when you consider that the extremists on the Right are perfectly capable of making similar arguments and putting them into action. If it’s revolution we’re talking about, it’s going to take a lot more than public camping to bring about the movement’s goals. In a nation as bitterly divided as this one, a revolution against the current system in a more progressive direction would almost certainly by a very bloody, bitter battle–not an Aquarian change of utopian consciousness. The change could probably happen peacefully over a couple of decades through the buildup of grassroots political pressure and electing progressively better people into office. But to accomplish the goals quickly would take guns and lots of them, not protest signs–which is partly why Candidate Obama’s promises to “change our politics” fell so drastically short once he became President Obama. Nobody can change this economic system on a dime without making some serious political systemic changes, including especially to the filibuster. That in turn takes not an executive, but an adequate number of progressive legislators who see the problem and are willing to make the changes in spite of being labeled “divisive.”

Even so, it’s awfully hard even for folks like me to argue that mayors have an obligation to enforce the rule of law, when the rule of law so obviously only applies to the little people. In case you missed the 60 Minutes segment from last week, it’s clear that the laws are only being enforced against regular people, even as the billionaire criminals skate free.

The failure to hold any of these egregious thieves accountable is fraying the social contract. It legitimizes the revolutionary worldview.

Part of the decision not to prosecute them has undoubtedly been (apart from pure corruption and the difficulty and expense involved in the prosecutions) the desire not to do anything too divisive. But the fact is that not prosecuting them has led to increasing political division in this country, as groups on both the left and the right believe the system incapable of dispensing justice. That in turn leads to a revolutionary theory of change, which (each in their own characteristic way) is what binds Tea Partiers with guns at congressional rallies promising “second Amendment remedies,” and Occupiers illegally shutting down ports, declaring basic city zoning laws unconstitutional, and demanding the right to pitch tents on public property for years on end if need be to accomplish undefined goals.

Don’t blame the Tea Partiers or the Occupiers for this state of affairs. Blame the elected officials who have refused to the prosecute the people responsible for the economic crisis. If people thought the system was working the way it should be and prosecuting the right people, it would do a lot to pull the release on the political pressure valve.

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“In the absence of passion we are tender of our persons”

“In the absence of passion we are tender of our persons”

by digby

Looking back over the past year, it seems like a good day to reprise this post by Caleb Crain from some years back about asymmetric political warfare:

William Hazlitt explained the nature of it in his 1820 essay, “On the Spirit of Partisanship.”

Conservatives and liberals play the game of politics differently, Hazlitt wrote, because they have different motivations. Liberals are motivated by principles and tend to believe that personal honor can be spared in political combat. They may, in fact, become vain about their highmindedness. Hazlitt condemns the mildness as a mistake, both in moral reasoning and in political strategy. “They betray the cause by not defending it as it is attacked, tooth and nail, might and main, without exception and without remorse.”

The conservatives, on the other hand, start with a personal interest in the conflict. Not wishing to lose their hold on power, they are fiercer. “We”—i.e., the liberals, or the “popular cause,” in Hazlitt’s terminology—“stand in awe of their threats, because in the absence of passion we are tender of our persons.

They beat us in courage and in intellect, because we have nothing but the common good to sharpen our faculties or goad our will; they have no less an alternative in view than to be uncontrolled masters of mankind or to be hurled from high—

“To grinning scorn a sacrifice,
And endless infamy!”

They do not celebrate the triumphs of their enemies as their own: it is with them a more feeling disputation. They never give an inch of ground that they can keep; they keep all that they can get; they make no concessions that can redound to their own discredit; they assume all that makes for them; if they pause it is to gain time; if they offer terms it is to break them: they keep no faith with enemies: if you relax in your exertions, they persevere the more: if you make new efforts, they redouble theirs.

While they give no quarter, you stand upon mere ceremony. While they are cutting your throat, or putting the gag in your mouth, you talk of nothing but liberality, freedom of inquiry, and douce humanit…. Their object is to destroy you, your object is to spare them—to treat them according to your own fancied dignity.

They have sense and spirit enough to take all advantages that will further their cause: you have pedantry and pusillanimity enough to undertake the defence of yours, in order to defeat it. It is the difference between the efficient and the inefficient; and this again resolves itself into the difference between a speculative proposition and a practical interest.

It is not fair play, and Hazlitt thinks that liberals who decline to fight fire with fire are fools. “It might as well be said that a man has a right to knock me on the head on the highway, and that I am only to use mildness and persuasion in return, as best suited to the justice of my cause; as that I am not to retaliate and make reprisal on the common enemies of mankind in their own style and mode of execution.”

Last year’s legislative antics show that not much has changed.

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Looking for a morning after cure

Looking for a cure


by digby
If you overdid last night you’re probably still feeling the effects. I’m sorry. I know how it feels.
If you can focus, you might enjoy this in depth article about the various science relating to hangovers and the most common thinking about how to cure them. If not, just drink water and try to wait it out. I learned some time back to drink a lot of water while I’m drinking alcohol, before I go to bed and during the day after. (I also always drink light colored alcohol and brush my teeth frequently during hangover day.) It has cut my pain by at least 50% on the occasions I overdue (much, much less often than in my youth.) And sleep as much as possible so your body can deal with the toxic reprocessing while you are unconscious.
Plus comfort food. Necessary to soothe the soul as well as the stomach.
You’ll feel better tomorrow.
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