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Month: October 2013

It looks like the Million Vet march organizers aren’t happy with the wingnuts

It looks like the Million Vet March organizers aren’t happy with the wingnuts

by digby

Oopsie:

Official Stance of the Million Vet March on the Memorials:

The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC yesterday was not in alignment with our message. We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain. The core principle was and remains about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner. Our love for and our dedication to remains with Veterans, regardless of party affiliation or political leanings.

Feel free to check out the 60+ apolitical and peaceful rallies of the Million Vet March across the nation at our Facebook page  .

Seems they didn’t find this sort of dialog to be particularly patriotic. Sarah Palin, Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Mike Lee and various congressmen who were in attendance thought it was a-ok.

I guess they think they can persuade Obama to “put the Koran down, get up off his knees” and what … resign? Because they don’t like him?

The youthful baby boomer liberals were full of arrogance and foolishness. And the aging baby boomer reactionaries are too. And except for the fact that the reactionaries have managed to take over one of the two major parties and wield tremendous political power they’re exactly the same.

Update: If you can’t view that video, try this one:

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Little update on a slow holiday

Little update on a slow holiday

by digby

If I had to guess today, the agreement on Wednesday will probably look a lot like this:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has privately offered Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell a deal that would reopen the government until mid-to-late December while extending the U.S. debt ceiling until next year, according to several sources familiar with the talks. 

The proposal would set up a framework for larger budget negotiations with the House over the automatic sequestration spending cuts and other major deficit issues, the sources said. Moreover, Senate Democrats are open to delaying Obamacare’s medical device tax and a requirement that those receiving Obamacare subsidies be subject to income verification — but they would have to get something from Republicans in return, sources said.

The so-called grown-ups (led by Paul Ryan) might initially balk at the debt limit extension, which they see an their ace in the hole to force big cuts to the budget, and the Tea Partiers will rebell because they see the government shutdown as their best weapon to force some kind of reversal of Obamacare. But you can sort of see how they could both be appeased with some upfront “concessions” and a backdoor agreement for more before the end of the year.

It’s impossible to know if they can get it together before Thursday (or ever…) But if they are to do it, I’d think it looks something like that. There’s no way we’re getting completely out of this corner this week. The best we can hope for is that they kick the biggest threat down the road and the government shutdown is the field on which they continue to negotiate. It’s bad, but it’s less bad than a default and the Democrats probably have to use at least some of their leverage to avoid that.

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Friendly Reminder: GOP budget strategy

Friendly Reminder: GOP budget strategy

by digby

This seems like a good day to reprise this post from last month by long time congressional observer Stan Collander:

…I need to again refer back to something I posted more than two years ago, right after I was the first speaker at the first meeting of the House tea party caucus. (You can read all the details here.)

I was talking informally with a number of the members of Congress who had been there after the meeting ended. There was unanimous agreement among those members that the biggest thing the House GOP had done wrong during the 1995 and 1995-96 shutdowns was that it had given in to Bill Clinton too early. The GOP would have gotten a much better deal, they told me, if it had pushed harder and been willing to keep the government closed longer. 

Pushing until the very, very last minute has been one of the mainstays of the House GOP’s negotiating strategy on budget issues ever since . With one exception — House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) unilaterally deciding nine days before the deadline to cut a deal with the White House to extend the reduction in the payroll tax — every budget decision since 2011 has gone up to, and in some cases beyond, the deadline. 

I’d guess we’re going to have a tense week, right up to the last minute.

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The grown ups take to the TeeVee

The grown ups take to the TeeVee

by digby

A new national ad campaign is on its way to help people understand what needs to be done about our current crisis. Feel the magic:

Here are David Gregory and Dick Durbin helping that message right along:

Love Dick Durbin right in the middle of an epic standoff between the two parties, with the government closed and default on the debt looming in less than a week, talking about solving budget problems that may or may not emerge 20 years from now. Why?

Oh wait, look over here

“Countries are shocked — by wars, terror attacks, coups d’état and natural disasters.” [And manufactured crises of governance?] Then “they are shocked again — by corporations and politicians who exploit the fear and disorientation of this first shock to push through economic shock therapy.”

Update: If you think I’m being hyperbolic about this being an example of disaster capitalism, read this.

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We wouldn’t need the metaphors if the press would do its job, by @DavidOAtkins

We wouldn’t need the metaphors if the press would do its job

by David Atkins

Paul Krugman is the latest to try his hand at a metaphor to explain the shutdown and debt ceiling crisis in terms everyone can understand:

So you have this neighbor who has been making your life hell. First he tied you up with a spurious lawsuit; you’re both suffering from huge legal bills. Then he threatened bodily harm to your family. Now, however, he says he’s willing to compromise: He’ll call off the lawsuit, which is to his advantage as well as yours. But in return you must give him your car. Oh, and he’ll stop threatening your family — but only for a week, after which the threats will resume.

Not much of an offer, is it? But here’s the kicker: Your neighbor’s relatives, who have been egging him on, are furious that he didn’t also demand that you kill your dog.

And now you understand the current state of budget negotiations.

Pretty good. Jon Stewart had his own as well:

So let’s talk about what’s really happening at that store. Everybody chipped in and gave you money to go to the store to buy milk, bread and eggs. And then you decided on your own, ‘You know what? I don’t even like fucking eggs. Eggs are a communist menace turning our country Muslim, so I’m just going to buy milk and bread.’ And everybody else is like ‘We passed a law that said you’d buy milk, bread and eggs. And the Supreme Court upheld that shopping list.’ And that’s when you burned the fucking store down.

But we really shouldn’t need these metaphors, should we? After all, it’s a pretty simple situation: Republicans and Democrats both know (despite a few crazy outliers like Gohmert or Yoho)) that raising the debt ceiling and reopening the government are essential. They’re not a favor to either side. So using them as leverage to extract concessions for public policies opposed by both the Senate and the White House is nothing but hostage taking. It’s not rocket science, and we wouldn’t need metaphors if the press would just call it like it is.

Unfortunately, this is the “press” the country has to deal with:

Speaking a couple hours before congressional Republican leaders were due at the White House for a meeting on the matter, Carney said it remained to be seen whether the opposition would “put the matches and gasoline aside when it comes to threatening default.”

He also said the proposed short-term extension of the debt ceiling, which would the government would hit next week without congressional action, was a way for Republicans to keep the “nuclear weapon” of undermining the economy in their “back pocket.”

But it was “ransom” — a word Obama has used repeatedly to describe Republican negotiating tactics — that struck the last press corps nerve. The usual briefing room decorum, such as it is, broke down entirely when Carney said finally that Obama would sign a debt-ceiling extension but not if it meant “paying a ransom” to Republicans.

“The president will not pay ransom for … ” Carney began.

“You see it as a ransom, but it’s a metaphor that doesn’t serve our purposes … ” NPR correspondent Ari Shapiro shouted back with broad support from other confused reporters.

“You guys are just too literal then, right? Carney said.

“We just want to accurately report,” Shapiro began before Carney interjected. “We’re trying to be accurate in our description of what’s going on.”

Ari Shapiro of the “liberal” NPR doesn’t think the ransom metaphor “serves his purposes.” Apparently the gaggle of reporters agrees.

Guess what? Bread and eggs are metaphors. Neighbors and lawsuits are metaphors. “Ransom” isn’t a metaphor. It’s an on-its-face accurate description of what is going on. Keep in mind that this wasn’t a GOP operative declaring that the ransom “metaphor” didn’t “serve his purposes.” It was a reporter, from a supposedly left-leaning outlet.

What purposes do the assembled press have in not telling the truth? No one would need to resort to the metaphors if the press would simply accurately relate the situation. Is it really so necessary to lie in the interest of “balance”?

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No, liberals are not driving the Democratic Party. Unfortunately.

No, liberals are not driving the Democratic Party. Unfortunately.

by digby

Here’s Ronald Brownstein with an egregious example of false equivalence:

One lesson of the grueling standoff, as I noted recently, is that when Congress devolves into perpetual conflict, each party’s more militant voices gain influence at the expense of its deal-makers.

That dynamic is evident in a Democratic Party that has coalesced around a hard-line, no-negotiations strategy meant to lastingly delegitimize threats of government shutdown or default as a lever for exacting policy concessions. “We have to break the cycle of this, and it has to happen now,” insists one senior White House aide.

But the shift of power from the center to the fringe has been most vivid in a Republican Party that precipitated this clash. Although Boehner’s hapless performance surely has ironfisted predecessors like Joe Cannon and Sam Rayburn spinning, it’s not as if Senate Republican leaders, despite their own abundant doubts, have more successfully controlled the most belligerent voices in their own ranks.

So, the liberals in the Democratic Party are forcing the White House and the leadership not to negotiate? Who knew we had such influence? (Oh, and if we do, we’re also forcing them to hold out for higher spending in the budget, raising the cap on social security, revisit the public option as well as banning the keystone pipeline, throwing TPP into the trashbin and drastically scaling back the NSA and the drone war. We’re just that powerful.)

In fairness, Brownstein does spend most of his article examining the Tea Party tail that’s wagging the GOP dog, but that observation above is simply daft. The Democratic Party may be militant about not allowing any more debt ceiling debacles, but that’s hardly coming from the “fringe.” In fact, the left wing of the Democratic party is almost entirely irrelevant except to the extent it is expected to supply votes — and it almost certainly will. In fact, if the Republicans play their cards right they will probably be able to get a bunch of liberals to do their dirty work for them if it comes down to that. Burden of being “grown-ups” and all that.

It’s pretty to think that there’s a left and right populist movement afoot that’s destabilizing both party establishments but there’s just no evidence of it. There’s no liberal equivalent of the Tea Party.

I think I should have added National Journal to my Credo petition …

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Shoot first and ask questions later

Shoot first and ask questions later

by digby

I think it may really be time for foreign nations to issue travel advisories for certain American states. When this is considered justice, anyone with any thought for their own safety should ask whether or not it’s just too dangerous to go there:

Seventeen-year-old Darrell Niles was in his car, minding his own business back in 2010 when 33-year-old Shannon Anthony Scott shot and killed him.

Earlier that day, a group of girls had followed and threatened Scott’s 15-year-old daughter. They later drove past Scott’s house in an SUV. But when Scott walked out of his house with a handgun to confront the “women thugs,” as he described them, he instead fired straight into the 1992 Honda of Darrell Niles, who was unarmed. Niles was killed instantly.

Some questions remain in the case: The group of girls may have fired shots first, but testimony is conflicted on if shots were fired at Scott himself, or at all. There is also some indication that Scott was primed to shoot his gun at someone: Even prior to the shooting, he had a sign in his window that read, “Fight Crime – Shoot First,” according to a 5th Circuit Assistant Solicitor.

Despite the defense’s evidence that Scott had no proof the young man was an “imminent threat,” Scott’s attorney — who, oddly enough, is state Rep. Todd Rutherford (D-SC) — argued that if Scott hadn’t shot Niles, he would have had to go back to his home and “hope that the cavalry (police) are going to come.”

“All that matters is that Mr. Scott felt his life was in jeopardy,” Rutherford said.
On Wednesday, Circuit Judge Maite Murphy accepted those arguments and ruled that Scott believed he was aiming for the group that had threatened his daughter, and therefore was protected under South Carolina’s 2006 Stand Your Ground law.

Wow. So, if he hadn’t shot an innocent bystander he would have had to go into his house and call the police? That’s a reasonable excuse?

When you have laws that say you can shoot and kill completely innocent bystanders because you “feel threatened”, innocent bystanders are going to be shot and killed. These yahoos with guns are the most paranoid freaks in this country — they truly believe the government is coming to take their guns away and put them in FEMA camps. And these laws have given such head cases permission to shoot first and ask questions later — just like the sign in that man’s window says.

Yes, best to just stay away from the states that have enacted these laws — and if you’re a praying sort, take a moment to pray for the innocent people who live in those states who want nothing to do with this lunacy. They have to look over their shoulders every day …

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In case you were wondering about that sequester demand

In case you were wondering about that sequester demand

by digby

There’s a lot of jibber-jabber among the chatterers about the democrats upping the ante and demanding sequester relief as a condition of any negotiations to open the government and raise the debt ceiling.

I think this from Sam Stein explains what’s happening in the clearest fashion:

Sam Stein has now written a longer article about this. It’s a confusing situation and virtually nobody on TV seems to have an accurate picture of what happened.

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