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Month: April 2014

Those silly younger voters

Those silly younger voters

by digby

You just can’t trust them at all:

President Obama inspired a generation of young people to support his historic election in 2008. And in 2012, despite the struggles of his first term, Mr. Obama still managed to win the support of a full 60% of voters age 18-29. But the man who once dreamed of being a transformative leader in the Reagan mold is inspiring few of those young people to follow his lead.

“For all the talk about the movement that elected Mr. Obama, the more notable movement of Obama supporters has been away from politics. It appears that few of the young people who voted for him, and even fewer Obama campaign and administration operatives, have decided to run for office. Far more have joined the high-paid consultant ranks,” reports the New York Times NYT. “Unlike John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, who inspired virtual legislatures of politicians and became generational touchstones, Mr. Obama has so far had little such influence.”

The Times quotes Harvard pollster John Della Volpe: “If you were to call it an Obama generation, there was a window…That opportunity has been lost.” Mr. Della Volpe’s polling of 18- to 29-year-olds shows that only 35% now believe that running for office is an honorable pursuit. “We’re seeing the younger cohort is even less connected with [Mr. Obama] generally, with his policies, as well as politics generally,” he told the Times. The paper also quotes former Obama pollster Sergio Bendixen saying that Mr. Obama’s onetime core supporters among the young “went on to the next website and then the next click on their computer. I just don’t see the generation as all that ideological or invested in causes for the long run.”

You mean that whole “come to Obama” thing didn’t invest young people in ideology and causes? Go figure. (There were some of us who predicted that the delirious American Idol “I’ve got a crush on Obama” approach might result in some disillusionment when Real Life intruded on the fantasy, but we were naysaying fools.)

You cannot blame young people for feeling like their excitement about Obama didn’t really add up to all that much. It’s not that they have short attention spans. It’s that their lives are shit and it’s doubly disappointing that their lives are shit after they placed such faith in “Hope ‘n Change.”

But hey Democratic strategists, go ahead and blame the voters for feeling like it doesn’t matter if they vote. What could possibly go wrong?

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The demographic tale

The demographic tale

by digby

This tells the story better than anything else I’ve seen:

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That bulge you see going through the snake is the baby boomers of course. And as you can see, we’re going to be nothing but a group of very old ladies before too much longer. So all the panic about Social Security and the other old age problems are going to work themselves out quite naturally in a fairly short period of time. There is no need to panic. Indeed, it’s important not to cut the programs for those very old ladies. They (we) are probably not going to be able to be big “job creators” or producers at that point and will need help before we finally die off.

And if I might just add a little boomer’s lament: we didn’t ask to be born any more than the rest of you did. To the extent we are selfish, destructive failures as a generation, take a look at just how huge a generation that is and consider that a whole lot of us as individuals tried to do the right thing in our lives. There were just so many of us.

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Lady Liberty is a hippie

Lady Liberty is a hippie


by digby

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Sunday said that America “can’t invite the whole world” to enter the country, no matter how much some immigrants may love the U.S.

Speaking on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos,” Paul said that when lawmakers focus only on the reasons immigrants enter the U.S. illegally, it makes “people think, ‘Well, because they’re doing this for kind reasons,’ that the whole world can come to our country.”

So true.

I think we probably need to do something about this, though.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Maybe it’s time to rip that old statue down and put it in a museum somewhere.

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It’s torture. If they still won’t call it what it is, you know it will happen again.

It’s torture. If they still won’t call it what it is, you know it will happen again.

by digby

There is just no excuse for this:

Much has been made in the past decade or so about the news business’ sudden conversion to euphemism when it came to describing techniques that had been previously universally recognized as torture. One study, for instance, found that major outlets abruptly stopped defining waterboarding as torture when the Bush administration began using it.

That tendency has not abated in recent years, and a look through recent newspaper and television coverage shows that many outlets are still hesitant to use “torture.”

McClatchy, which published the leaked findings from the Senate report, called them “harsh interrogation techniques,” even as it provided a gruesome description of what those techniques were:

The techniques included waterboarding, which produces a sensation of drowning, stress positions, sleep deprivation for up to 11 days at a time, confinement in a cramped box, slaps and slamming detainees into walls. The CIA held detainees in secret “black site” prisons overseas and abducted others who it turned over to foreign governments for interrogation.

The Washington Post referred to “brutal,” “harsh” and “excruciating” techniques.

A New York Times article mentioned “brutal methods.”

Reuters wrote about “brutal interrogation methods that critics say amount to torture.”

The Associated Press actually described the report in one article as a “torture report,” though it later used the term “enhanced interrogation techniques” in quotes.

Read on. Television is just as bad.

This is unacceptable. And at this point the news media has to take some responsibility for perpetrating the myth that “the US doesn’t torture.” If you won’t put the word in black and white, you aren’t being truthful with the American public. Indeed, they are making it safe for the government to do it again.

They are now officially propagandists for the torture regime.

Does everyone recall what the US media used to call what the North Vietnamese did to prisoners? Torture:

“Stress positions”  


Many men were handcuffed or tied to a stool as a means of slow torture. The [detainee] sat in one position, day and night. Each time he would fall over, the guards would sit him upright. He was not allowed to sleep or rest. Exhaustion and pain take their toll. When the [detainee] agreed to cooperate with his captors and acquiesced to their demands, he would be removed. Here, I have pictured a guard named “Mouse,” who liked to throw buckets of cold water on a man on cold winter nights. 


You’re always sitting either on the floor or on a stool or concrete block or something low. The interrogator is always behind a table that’s covered with cloth of some kind, white or blue or something. And he sits above you and he’s always looking down at you asking you questions and they want to know what the targets are for tomorrow, next week, next month. You don’t know. You really don’t know. But he doesn’t — he’s going to have to have an answer of some kind. Now the back of the room comes the — the torture. And he’s a — he’s a big guy that knows what he’s doing. And he starts locking your elbows up with ropes and tying your wrists together and bending you

“Sleep Deprivation”  



Some men were tied to their beds, sometimes for weeks at a time. Here, I have drawn a picture showing the handcuffs being worn in front, but the usual position was with the wrists handcuffed behind the back. A man would live this way day and night, without sleep or rest. 


The guards come around the middle of the night just rattling the lock on your door. That’s a terrifying thing because they may be taking you out for a torture session. You don’t know. 


“… obviously this is an emotional thing to me, was listening to the screams of other … prisoners while they were being tortured. And being locked in a cell myself sometimes uh, in handcuffs or tied up and not able to do anything about it. And that’s the way I’ve got to spend the night.”


“Isolation”  


The ten months that I spent in the blacked out cell I went into panic. The only thing I could do was exercise. As long as I could move, I felt like I was going to — well, it was so bad I would put a rag in my mouth and hold another one over it so I could scream. That seemed to help. It’s not that I was scared, more scared than another other time or anything. It was happening to my nerves and my mind. And uh, I had to move or die. I’d wake up at two o’clock in the morning or midnight or three or whatever and I would jump up immediately and start running in place. Side straddle hops. Maybe four hours of sit ups. But I had to exercise. And of course I prayed a lot

I won’t go into how much those “harsh techniques” resembled the torture methods used by our own government. It’s obvious. And it’s just a small sample.

That little excerpt above was from a post I wrote 10 years ago. And they don’t even include “waterboarding” which Vice President Cheney called a “no brainer” and said he’d do again without a second thought.

I don’t know what these news organizations fear from calling torture what it is. But I can guarantee it’s not as bad as what was done to those prisoners or to the reputation of the United States of America. If we can’t even call the torture by its real name it’s hard to see why the government won’t see this as just another semantic debate and do the same thing if they feel it’s “necessary.” I guess much of the news business feels it’s immune from that sort of thing but the rest of us should worry. If the US government has officially defined deviancy down to the point where torture is no longer torture, you have to wonder where it might end? After all, the world is full of danger. Who knows who they might think they need to “interrogate” with “enhanced methods” next time?

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Float like a butterfly sting like a … never mind

Float like a butterfly sting like a … never mind

by digby

My latest at Salon on the Democrats’ fall strategy to combat the Koch’s assault on Obamacare:

Suppose you were a manufacturer who created a new product that could conceivably benefit everyone at some point in their lives but will only be needed by a small number of them at any one time. And further suppose that this product was a threat to another manufacturer who would suffer long-term erosion of its customer base if this new product really took hold in the marketplace. Would it make sense for the manufacturer of the new product to sit idly by while this rival spent millions and millions of dollars on false advertising about the new product? Would it be reasonable to believe that after being inundated by lies for months the public would be positive about this product and the people who made it?

Apparently, that’s what Democratic Senate incumbents are all counting on happening. According to Politico, they are keeping their powder dry for the fall campaign while the Koch brothers and lord knows how many other radical right-wing billionaires spend unlimited sums spreading lies about Obamacare.

That’s a great strategy — if you’re Muhammad Ali. For normal humans it’s a very big gamble to allow yourself to be relentlessly pummeled in the hopes a late surge of energy will allow you to score a knock-out.  Read on …

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Year of Living Dangerously: First Episode, by @DavidOAtkins

Year of Living Dangerously: First Episode

by David Atkins

James Cameron’s series on climate change Year of Living Dangerously premiered its first episode this weekend. It’s free with minor edits on Youtube. Check it out:

It’s good to see this sort of material out there. Kudos to James Cameron and all the talented people involved for making this series happen, demonstrating the immediate and very human impact that global warming is already having at home and abroad. It’s not as if Americans can count on cable news to tell them the truth about climate change.

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You think the Kochs don’t really matter?

You think the Kochs don’t really matter?

by digby

Here’s just one example of the their malevolent intent:

When Congress passed the 2012 Biggert-Waters Act, the goal was to keep the National Flood Insurance Program afloat after insurance payouts from several devastating hurricanes, including Katrina, left the program in debt. However, lawmakers did not foresee the legislation’s impact on Louisiana homeowners: sky-high flood insurance premiums for some of the same families that had already suffered through the “single most catastrophic natural disaster” in U.S. history. The Biggert-Waters Act hit some Louisiana families with annual premiums as high as $18,000 and threatened to destabilize the state’s property values and housing market.

Yet when Congress, backed by a wide bipartisan coalition, was preparing to halt the harmful effects the flood insurance hikes were having on Louisiana, the Koch brothers tried to intervene and kill the legislation. Their Tea Party-affiliated group, Americans for Prosperity, backed plans to end all federal flood insurance subsidies for property owners and preserve “the crux” of the faulty Biggert-Waters Act despite its harm to Louisiana homeowners. Although opposition from conservative groups like AFP caused House leaders to delay a vote on the fix, Congress passed the Homeowner Flood Insurance Affordability Act in March 2014, staving off Biggert-Waters’ extreme premium hikes despite the Koch Brothers’ efforts.

What horrible people these are.

I wonder if they’ll have better luck now that they can give even more money to candidates than they did before?

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The meanest Christian

The meanest Christian

by digby

I told you Huckabee was a nasty piece of work. And this is really nasty:

Noting that President Barack Obama said years ago that he opposed gay marriage because of his Christian beliefs, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee openly questioned those beliefs Friday because the president had since changed his position.

Huckabee spoke with Fox New’s Laura Ingraham about his own comments regarding same-sex nuptials. He had told an Iowa audience Tuesday that his opposition was “on the right side of the Bible.” On Friday, he argued that it was the same stance that Obama had taken in 2008.

“He said it was because of his Christian convictions. Does he have them or does he not?” Huckabee told Ingraham. “If one has them, they don’t change depending on what the culture does. You don’t take an opinion poll to come up with a new point of view.”

He laid out three possible scenarios to explain the president’s change of heart: “Were you lying then or are you lying now or did the Bible get re-written?”

He’s insulting President Obama in his usual nasty way by calling him a liar. But he’s also insulting all the Christians who believe in gay marriage, which I assume includes quite a few of the people who are reading this right now. There are lots of them.

The Barna group, which tracks religious attitudes in America, did a poll last summer:

I guess all those people who’ve changed their minds are liars or heretics.

And here’s another example of their ongoing problem with younger voters:

A striking diference emerged in this survey both in 2003 and 2013: Both among the national average and the Christian population, views on same-sex relationships vary significantly by age. Across the board, twenty- and thirty-something Americans are more likely than Americans 40 and over to support legal changes favoring the LGBTQ community (65% compared to 46%), to view same-sex relationships as morally acceptable (47% compared to 30%), and disagree that marriage is defined as one man and one woman (61% compared to 46%).

Within the Christian community, this generational trend remains the same, though the gap is smaller. Younger practicing Christians are statistically more supportive of the LGBTQ movement than their parents’ generation. Nearly half of of practicing Protestants under 40 today support changing laws to enable more freedoms for the LGBTQ community, while just one-third of their parents’ and grandparents’ generation feel the same.

The ways younger practicing Christians understand the goals of the LGBTQ community also differ significantly than their predecessors’ perceptions. Twenty- and thirty-something practicing Christians today are twice as likely as practicing Christians over 40 to identify protection from violence and discrimination (11% compared to 6%) and sexual freedom (13% compared to 6%) as goals of the LGBTQ community. Younger Christians (19%) are also nearly three times as likely as older Christians (7%) to understand adoption as a desire within the LGBTQ community.

So keep insulting Christians and other Americans with this nonsense, Huckabee. It’ll only hurt your political ball team. And that’s a good thing.

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The worst thing about McKutcheon according to Republicans? No more “sorry, I’m maxed out.”

The worst thing about McKutcheon according to Republicans? No more “sorry I’m maxed out”

by digby

I can think of a lot of reasons why this is such a bad decision, from the flood of money from rich donors to further sway government to act in their interest to the continuing absurdity of this “money equals speech” concept which makes a mockery of democracy. Most people seem to think those are pretty substantial problems. But this Republican lawmaker from Maryland, which just voted to lift its state law limiting contributions in light of the Supreme Court ruling, has a different take on the pros and cons:

“This will be a game-changer,” said state Sen. J.B. Jennings, a Republican who represents Baltimore and Harford counties.

“Is it good or bad? I don’t think we necessarily know yet,” he added. “For some business people who love politics and love to play the game, it’s going to take the reins off them. But for the others, it’s just going to annoy them. Anybody who is running is going to be calling these people, and they won’t be able to say, ‘Sorry, I’m maxed out.'”

The main drawback he sees is that rich people will be annoyed because they won’t have the excuse that they’ve already maxed out. It could be quite a problem. Maybe they could just have one of the servants say they’re not home.

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