Imagine what would happen if Trump testified in a criminal case. pic.twitter.com/nDhZM6O98N
— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) November 6, 2023
Cue the reporting about how Trump, a 77 year old conspiracist who is delusional about basic aspects of reality, is too cognitively impaired to be president. Right? Right? pic.twitter.com/3Gdp2tgOBc
— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) November 6, 2023
Here’s a minute by minute of the morning session. Jesus H. Christ. Tens of millions of people want to put this psycho back in the White House:
Court is now in session.
Justice Engoron alludes to the photographers, who are about to come in to photograph Trump and counsel at the defense table.
This will be the second time that Trump takes the stand in this trial.
The first time, Justice Engoron found him “not credible” — and in violation of his gag order.
“The People call Donald J. Trump.”
The former president saunters to the witness stand.
Asked whether he formed the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust when he ran for president in 2016, Trump said: “Pretty much when I won, I formed the trust.”
Trump says all of the cases are “not good.”
“Weaponization, they call it,” Trump says.
Pointing to the disclaimer, Trump said. “We would call it a worthless statement clause.”
“They were not really documents that the banks paid much attention to.”
Justice Engoron rejected Trump’s “worthless clause” defense in his pre-trial ruling.
Trump launches into a monologue.
“As this crazy trial goes along” Trump says the defense will call bankers and “they were explain what the process is.”
“Thus, the ‘worthless clause’ does not say what defendants say it says, does not rise to the level of an enforceable disclaimer, and cannot be used to insulate fraud as to facts peculiarly within defendants’ knowledge, even vis-à-vis sophisticated recipients.”
“I’m sure the judge will rule against me because he always rules against me.”
“You can attack me, do whatever you want, but answer the question.”
Engoron doesn’t take the bait, reminding Trump what the question was.
Wallace: “No, your honor.”
“Trump had no money. And he wrote up phony statements, and he defrauded banks,” even though they were represented by the best lawyers.
Wallace: I move to strike that answer.
Granted.
Kise eventually tells him: “You’re in control of the courtroom, not me.”
Trump: “It’s a nice compilation of assets. It’s a great statement. […] It’s a lot of cash. […] The banks came to me. They wanted to make deals with me.”
Judge: “Stricken! Stricken!”
A: “Absolutely.”
Trump boasts about its location: “I’m between IBM and Tiffany.”
Wallace: The question was…
If they want to expand anywhere, you have to go through my building.
Judge: Excuse me.
Trump: Hold on. (continues with his speech)
“Mr. Kise, can you control your witness because I am considering drawing a negative inference on any question he might be asked?”
Kise urges the judge against that.
The judge warns Kise that if he will control Trump if the lawyer doesn’t.
Engoron snaps: “I’m not here to hear what he has to say. He’s here to answer questions.”
He orders Kise and Habba to sit down.
“This is a very unfair trial. Very, very unfair, and I hope the public is watching it.”
Before that exchange, Trump gave a speech about the statute of limitations, possibly converting it to condominiums, and this remark:
“I got a lollipop in the lease. It’s a legal term, believe it or not.”
A: I accepted it. […] Other people did it, but I didn’t say, make it higher or make it lower.
“I think we’ll take our break now,” adding that he’d appreciate it if Mr. Kise would talk with his client.
Wallace keeps questioning Trump assets on his statements of financial condition.
Trump concedes, while disclaiming responsibility for it:
“The number was too high. They lowered it after that.”
“I thought it was too high. I don’t know what’s too high any more.”
He claims that the number wasn’t “too far off” when you add rooftop access.
“They took 10,000 feet per floor, and they went times three. But they didn’t take out elevator shafts and different things.”
He shows Trump language describing it as an “exclusive private club.”
Asked if that was true, Trump responds: “Yes.”
(Whether it’s a club or a residence is a key issue in the case.)
He wasn’t president after Inauguration Day in 2021.
Trump parses: “‘Intend’ doesn’t mean we will do it.”
“I don’t think so. It says ‘intends.'”
If someone wanted to change it later, Trump says, “I believe they would have the right to do it.”
He says he said it as “bravado,” not “legal intent.”
Asked if he got tax benefits from it being a club, Trump answers yes.
“Aberdeen is a very rich place. It’s an incredible piece of land, and it may be the greatest golf course ever built.”
Kise defends what he describes as Trump’s “brilliant” response.
“I have a lot of money, a lot more money than you thought.”
Trump:
“I’m worth billions of dollars more than the financial statements” — and anything “off” would be “non-material.”
(The judge rejected materiality arguments before trial.)
Engoron lets the remark slide.
“People like you go around to try to demean me, and try to hurt me.”
Wallace tells the judge he won’t move to strike because he has a lot of ground to cover.
“I’m trying to make you understand it,” Trump replies.
He invokes legal scholars who purportedly agree with him.
“It’s disgraceful,” he says, referring to the case.
He says that the NYAG used this case to try to become the governor and to successfully become attorney general.
(Trump lost political motivation arguments before trial.)
Engoron: “No, it hasn’t been asked and answered. It’s been asked. It hasn’t been answered.”
Judge: If you want to learn about the disclaimer clause, read my opinion — for the first time.
Trump: You’re wrong about the opinion.
Wallace: “Are you done?”
A: Everybody.
“Anybody sees something going wrong, come see me about it directly.”
Asked if anyone did that, Trump responds in the affirmative, and the AG’s counsel asks for an example. Trump responds to with a broad generality.
“Come to see management, but come to see me directly. I don’t want that going on.”
Referring to the document, Trump says: “I’d love to read this your honor. Can I do that?”
Engoron: “No, not at this point.”
Trump: “Shock”
He scoffs: “Forbes. They’re owned by China. Now, they sold it to Russia.”
“I have very little respect for Forbes.”
(Forbes broke the news that Trump inflated the size of his New York penthouse and recently knocked him off the billionaires list.)
Kise asks if the judge made any of it out.
He didn’t.
They move on.
Trump says they made a lot of investments to the building.
“I spent a lot of money on fixing the building up.”
“She doesn’t even know what 40 Wall Street is.”
NYAG is visibly cackling at the remark for a bit, then puts her head down to compose herself.
(They’re right next to each other.)
Trump says he doesn’t remember something from 12 years ago.
Trump concedes he was the “djt” his son referred to in the email.