There’s already trouble in GOP paradise even before Trump takes office. Government funding is about to run out and they need to either pass a budget or punt with a continuing resolution. Otherwise we’re looking, once again, at a government shutdown. There are some Republicans who relish that because they just love to be transgressive. But Speaker Johnson just wants to get past it however he can until Dear Leader can come in and magically make everything work perfectly.
The problem is that the House Republicans are in disarray with some wanting just a clean extension until March while others want to shoot the moon with massive cuts (as usual.) Johnson can’t get anything done unless he gets cooperation from at least a few Democrats as a result.
Grab some popcorn. They’re already at each others’ throats.
Steve Bannon on Speaker Mike Johnson: “He’s a Democrat. He holds the Bible, and he’s got the New Testament wrapped up tight. He can talk happy talk on a handful of social issues, you know, checking his son’s porn sites. All this nonsense…” pic.twitter.com/iMcEh9Sy8z
House Speaker Mike Johnson was asked to respond to criticism from conservative lawmakers and Elon Musk over the bloated interim spending bill released Tuesday.
In a post on X, Musk said the measure “should not pass.”
During an interview on “Fox & Friends” Wednesday morning, co-host Steve Doocy pointed to Musk’s response and noted that the only way to pass the bill will be with Democrat support.
“Well, I was communicating with Elon last night. Elon, Vivek and I are on a text chain together and I was explaining to them the background of this,” Johnson explained. “And Vivek and I talked last night about almost midnight. And he said, ‘Look, I get it.’ And he said, ‘We understand you’re in an impossible position. Everybody knows that.’
“Remember, guys, we still have just a razor-thin margin of Republicans,” Johnson continued. “So any bill has to have Democrat votes. They understand the situation. They said ‘it’s not directed at you, Mr. Speaker, but we don’t like the spending.’ And I said, ‘guess what, fellas? I don’t either.’”
He went on to assure them that once the Democrats are no longer in control in the next Congress they will be able to do what they want. (I don’t think they’re actually “in control” in the House right now and the margin will be even tighter in the next Congress but whatever.)
I think Adam Kinzinger said it best:
America this is not healthy government. Text chains with oligarchs and dorks https://t.co/COsOrRVtny
— Adam Kinzinger (Slava Ukraini) 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇮🇱 (@AdamKinzinger) December 18, 2024
Seriously, who elected Musk and Ramaswamy to anything? Ever? This is insane.
Update — lol:
SCOOP: House GOP critics of Mike Johnson’s CR plan are already floating names to get behind instead come the Jan. 3 speaker vote, two lawmakers told me
She was not fired, she quit. And she quit at least partially because she didn’t approve of the Trump bootlicking. It’s much more complicated than that, of course. The government is falling apart for all the same reasons all the governments everywhere are falling apart and she’s in opposition to her former ally Trudeau on a number of issues.
Chrystia Freeland used to be a journalist and a good one. She’s going to run for Prime Minister and I hope she wins. She will not put up with Trump’s bullshit.
Meanwhile, Trump’s continuing on because he has the mind of a 12 year old bully:
He’s trolling, of course. But it also illuminates how idiotically he sees the trade issue. If we buy things from Canada he sees that as a subsidy. Apparently all the goods we are buying are worth nothing? It’s right up there with his insistence that NATO has to pay us “dues” like some Florida fat cat Mar-a-Lago member. It’s so embarrassingly stupid I don’t even know how to explain it.
I realize that by this time most people probably think this silly trolling stuff doesn’t matter and really don’t want to hear about it. But it does. This imbecile is dumbing down the entire world in ways that are going to damage us irreparably. We have some very, very serious problems to confront, the most important of which is climate change. Idiocracy isn’t going to fix that, it’s going to make it worse. And nihilism or exhausted fatalism will only help that happen.
President-elect Trump held his first press conference since the election this week and seemed surprised that he is suddenly so popular with all the wealthy business titans who are making the pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago like they’re the wise men and he’s the baby Jesus. He actually seemed to be a bit befuddled by his new found popularity among his billionaire pals:
President-elect Trump: "The first term everybody was fighting me, this term everybody wants to be my friend. I don't know. My personality changed or something." pic.twitter.com/oQLM42KDld
He’s not wrong. In his first term it was clear that political and business establishment leaders wanted nothing to do with him. And the media elites who are now elbowing each other out of the way to sit next to him and his major domo Elon Musk at the Mar-a-Lago dining table were openly hostile.
But it’s more than that. They all seem to be downright giddy at the prospect of getting up close and personal with the once and future president. It’s a far cry from the way they reacted during Trump’s first term, particularly among the media moguls.
Take just one example: Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, owner of the Washington Post said back in 2016 that Trump’s declared refusal to accept the election results unless he won “erodes our democracy around the edges.” He added, “one of the things that makes this country as amazing as it is, we are allowed to criticize and scrutinize our elected leaders,… to try and chill the media and threaten retribution and retaliation, which is what he’s done in a number of cases, it just isn’t appropriate.” The Post famously adopted the first slogan it had ever had in its 140 year history, “Democracy Dies in Darkness”, as a declaration of its mission to aggressively cover the Trump presidency.
Now he’s slouching toward Mar-a-Lago currying favor with Trump who has, if anything, gotten much worse than he was eight years ago. Just this week he filed a frivolous lawsuit against the Des Moines Register and its pollster because they published a pre-election poll that showed Trump losing the election when he ended up winning. It’s ridiculous on its face but after ABC settled a Trump defamation claim earlier this week ( after Debra OConnell, who oversees ABC News, paid a visit to Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump, according to Puck News) everyone understands this as an intimidation tactic.
But I’m not sure intimidation tells the whole story either. I also think the wealthy Masters of the Universe see Elon acting as the shadow president, even hosting events and schmoozing foreign leaders, and they want in on the action. The fact that the Big Billionaire is sitting at the table makes these lesser billionaires want to be there too. In a way, they’re clamoring to be “Influencers”, the hippest of all modern professions.
Nonetheless, it is profoundly disturbing to see the media bend the knee for any politician, much less Donald Trump. But I will remind everyone that we’ve actually been here before and pretty recently. It was a different situation and the motives weren’t the same but in some ways their behavior was even worse.
George W. Bush came into office in 2000 through a ruling by the Supreme Court in an election dispute in the state controlled by his brother. Two of the Justices on the court were appointed by his father. He lost the popular vote. Yet the Republicans and many in the media famously told anyone who didn’t like it to “get over it” and that was that.
Bush and the Republicans claimed a mandate and immediately enacted massive tax cuts as usual. There were some slight stirrings among the press and the Democrats in the Congress were gathering some spirit to rein him in and then 9/11 happened and the demands for unity were overwhelming. Bush had a 90% approval rating at one point and as you can see by the graph below it stayed very high for a long time.
The media completely capitulated to him for more than two years. The propaganda spread by the Bush administration was slick and professional but it was deadly. In their quest to fulfill their long-held dream of toppling Iraq leader Saddam Hussein and remake the middle east as a democratic paradise (at the end of a gun) they lied repeatedly and the news media helped them do it. One of the lowest points in New York Times history was when they allowed a Bush sycophant named Judith Miller to publish front page stories about Iraq’s alleged Weapons of Mass destruction which later turned out to be non-existent.
But it wasn’t just lies about the war. The media turned themselves into gushing super fans of George W. Bush. The exalted his brilliance when he stood on the rubble of the World Trade Center with a bullhorn and declared to the assembled workers “I hear you! The whole world hears you, and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” Soon after, he threw out the first pitch in the third game of the World series at Yankee Stadium and the media swooned over his perfect delivery.
When it became clear that the US was going to war with Iraq, it all took an even darker turn. Dissent was quashed all across society, professors were fired from their jobs for writing allegedly anti-American essays, up and coming journalists were banished for expressing skepticism about the Iraq invasion and long time talk show hosts were fired for hosting guests who spoke out against the war. The repression was very real.
And the adoration for the president continued apace. Do you remember the excitement over this silly stunt?
They made it appear that he had landed the plane himself but of course he didn’t. The sign on the carrier that day said “Mission Accomplished” but he didn’t do that either. The press was completely beside themselves, however, admiring his manly visage and it took a very long time for the country to begin to see him differently.
I’m not saying it will happen that way this time. Trump and his coterie of billionaires are very ambitious and the right has managed to pollute many of the institutions that existed back then to rein in an authoritarian president. But keep in mind that Trump has even less of a mandate than Bush did and he and his henchmen are less competent. When the global pandemic gave him the chance to become a hero as Bush was after 9/11 he blew it and I wouldn’t assume that he will do any better this time.
I only bring this up to remind everyone that it was only 23 years ago that the media offered themselves as supplicants to a president with a foul agenda just as they are doing today. I acknowledge that the media environment is different now with social media and new disinformation streams that didn’t exist then. But eventually reality always bites. It will bite again.
Donald Trump wants to create spectacles (Thunderdome), Josh Marshall observes. His professional wrestling instincts are not a mere joke. “That whole bombast is not only made to make people feel afraid, particularly the people they’re threatening directly, but to create this aura of power and uncheckable power and to knock people back on their heels and make them feel disoriented, demoralized, and all those things,” Marshall tells Greg Sargent’s Daily Blast podcast:
It’s typical Trump to threaten 10 things a day. And his opponents, his enemies are feeling overwhelmed with all the different threats, and he doesn’t actually have to do anything. So it is really important for people both to be prepared for him to do all sorts of crazy stuff, but also to be attuned to that spectacle, which is his greatest power.
Trump’s goal is an America cowed, Marshall says. Maybe he jails people. Maybe he just threatens. Maybe be actually does bring lawsuits, launch investigations. He doesn’t need to follow through on many for people to cower behind silence.
“It’s all out of the world of professional wrestling,” explains Marshall. Trump creating chaos and confusion, Trump’s bombast and menace, is meant to keep his adversaries off balance like a ship tossed at sea (my analogy). Democrats need their version of gyroscopic stabilizers if the Democratic ship expects to maintain way and fire back.
In the wake of Donald Trump’s election victory and promised revenge tour, a number of individuals have proposed the creation of an organization or fund which would take on the job of defending the various lawsuits, prosecutions and generalized legal harassment Trump will bring to the table in the next four years. It’s a very good idea. It’s a necessary one. Over the last six weeks I’ve had a number of people reach out to me and ask who is doing this. Where should they send money to fund this effort? This includes people who are in the small-donor category and also very wealthy people who could give in larger sums. So a few days ago I started reaching out to some people in the legal world and anti-Trump world to find out what’s going on, whether any efforts are afoot and who is doing what.
What I found out is that there are at least a couple groups working toward doing something like this. But the efforts seem embryonic. Or at least I wasn’t able to find out too much.
(Readers, if you run across efforts like this, send me links, please.)
Marshall want to see the left counterpunch, now more than ever. Embarrass Trump. Humiliate his attorneys. “That’s the language they understand,” Marshall says:
Marshall: All of these things are baseless, but most of these things are so baseless that you want to embarrass them. That’s the language they understand. Outrage and very normal and understandable reactions, that’s what they’re looking for. It’s the whole cry-more world. They want people to be outraged: How can you do this? This shouldn’t be possible. And I hope that a group like this, and the opposition to Trump more generally, can cultivate a degree of bring it on. Yeah, let’s do it. Let’s do it, dude, because you will be embarrassed and we love embarrassing you.
Old-line Democrats raised in the pre-internet era of network news eschew any spectacle livelier than a press conference. They want to look dignified. They want to achieve their policy goals even if it means “working across the aisle” with people trying to shiv them. They’d rather front Gerry Connolly than more camera-friendly, more social-media savvy AOC.
Donald Trump couldn’t give a flying f*ck about dignified. He just named Herschel Walker ambassador to the Bahamas, for God’s sake.
Marshall: We need to think big picture. What is the big goal here? It’s creating a population of cowed people. One way you do that is to actually jail people, but there’s a lot of different ways you do that. A lot of this is have the money for the actual court stuff, but also have what is in essence a public communications campaign that is contesting the ground where a lot of this is going to be taking place. You don’t personally need to be subpoenaed or called into a courtroom to make the decision in your head, Man, I better lay low because a lot of bad stuff is happening. You need people who are fighting that fight in the public square, not just in the courtroom.
Or in front of a press room podium. And we need them organized, prepositioned, and properly funded.
We must all hang together, as they saying goes.
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“A moment of genuine madness.” — MSNBC’s Chris Hayes
Max: Thunderdome. How do I get in there? Aunty Entity: That’s easy. Pick a fight!
Two important points this morning.
First, like it or not, the public wants Thunderdome. The press covers Thunderdome. Thunderdome draws eyeballs in this attention economy. Again, and again and again: How many Rocky movies did Stallone make?
“Democrats should imagine how Fox News would fill its airtime if this were a Democratic transition, and then speak and react as if they were creating soundbites for a big, aligned, signal-boosting media company,” Beutler writes. “Democrats should be unashamed to fight [Trump]. In this conservative-dominated media environment? Attract eyeballs, for God’s sake! Pick a fight! (emphasis mine):
Instead, the Democratic leadership has organized against handing the top seat on the House oversight committee to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, in the hope of installing Gerry Connolly, a 74-year old cancer patient, to the position. Connolly might not be a bad option in normal times. But over the next two years, Democrats should want an energetic, hungry figure in that role; the leaders prefer a committeeman they can control. If AOC were to become the committee chair in 2026, she would conduct freewheeling oversight; Connolly will heed the leadership and its stubborn aversion to conflict.
Donald Trump gives the people Thunderdome. But Democrats, with their “stubborn aversion to conflict,” won’t pick a fight or promote (in two senses) their best fighters.
Americans want to root for a fighter, to cheer for the underdog who punches back. The fictional George McFly who meekly takes it is cringe-worthy. Nobody wants to vote for him. The guy who cold-cocks Biff Tannen elicits cheers.
Let Republicans shout victimhood to the rooftops.
Slow Learners
Second, congressional Democrats on Tuesday voted to make “old and busted” Connolly the ranking member on the incoming House Oversight Committee over “new hotness” AOC.
Now, there is ageism and there is realism. I’m an old fart by now, just a few years younger than Connolly. I’m done. I’m an adviser. But I know that for a political party to remain vital, vibrant, and competitive, it has to have regular infusions of young blood. (See yesterday’s post.) That’s why two years ago I helped elect Anderson Clayton (then 25) state chair in North Carolina. (Like she needed much help.) But it’s a lesson slow learners among Democrats’ gerontocracy are loathe to accept.
It’s why Democrats should elect WisDems chair Ben Wikler, 43, the next chair of the Democratic National Committee on February 1. And I’d advise all y’all to tell your DNC members to support him. Clayton is up for reelection later in February.
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MSNBC’s Chirs Hayes Tuesday night called the choice of Connolly over AOC “a moment of genuine madness.” Democrats’ “old guard” are slow learners.
Update: Kate Aronoff of The New Republicconcurs, “The elderly are not too old to govern. But they may, in this case, be too attached to a failed way of doing things…. Pelosi and the old guard’s continued opposition to younger talent seems breathtakingly counterproductive in the face of the Democratic Party’s numerous challenges right now.”
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This piece in The Atlantic takes a look at the election results with a fresh eye:
Five days after last month’s election, Senator Chris Murphy rendered a damning verdict on his party’s performance. “That was a cataclysm,” the Connecticut Democrat wrote on X. “Electoral map wipeout.” Donald Trump had won both the popular vote and the biggest Electoral College victory—312 to 226—for any Republican since 1988; Democrats had lost their Senate majority and appeared unlikely to retake the House. The Democratic Party had lost touch with far too many American voters, Murphy concluded: “We are beyond small fixes.”
Other prominent Democrats saw a similarly sweeping repudiation of the party’s brand. “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Senator Bernie Sanders wrote in a statement issued less than 24 hours after the polls closed. At the time of those reactions, millions of votes had yet to be counted, and several of the nation’s closest House races remained uncalled. Now a clearer picture of the election has emerged, complicating the debate over whether Democrats need to reinvent themselves—and whether voters really abandoned them at all.
Trump’s popular-vote margin has shrunk to about 1.5 percent—one of the tightest in the past half century—and because some votes went to third-party and independent candidates, he’ll fall just short of winning a majority of the vote nationwide. Compared with incumbent governments elsewhere in the world, Democrats’ losses were modest. And in the House, they gained a seat, leaving the GOP with the second-smallest majority in history. A trio of Republican vacancies expected early next year will make passing Trump’s agenda even more difficult, and Democrats are in a strong position to recapture the chamber in the midterm elections, when the incumbent party typically struggles.
The final results are prompting some in the party to push back against the doom-and-gloom diagnoses of Murphy, Sanders, and others who say the Democratic brand is in tatters and needs an overhaul. “If the Democratic brand was fundamentally broken and needed to be thrown out, this election would have been a complete blowout. And it was not. It was way too close,” Yasmin Radjy, the executive director of Swing Left, a Democratic organizing group, told me. Another Democrat, who requested anonymity in order to speak candidly, put it this way: “We lost an election. We didn’t lose the country.”
As is usual after a Democratic loss to the Republicans, many on the left insist that the problem was that the party was too far to the right and the centrists all insist that the party was too far to the left. There is worry on all counts about the loss of the working class and white voters (and the erosion among voters of color) as well as pressure to change direction on everything from abortion to immigration to LGBTQ rights.
If you’re like me, this whole crypto craze is somewhat mystifying. And I really don’t understand the necessity for it. Paul Krugman at his Substack has the answer: crime.
The tech bros who helped put Trump back in power expect many favors in return; one of the more interesting is their demand that the government intervene to guarantee crypto players the right to a checking account, stopping the “debanking” they claim has hit many of their friends.
He goes on to point out that this is actually the opposite of what the whole Bitcoin revolution was supposed to do which was eliminate the need for banks:
What’s going on here? Elon Musk, Marc Andreesen and others claim that there’s a deep state conspiracy to undermine crypto, because of course they do. But the real reason banks don’t want to be financially connected to crypto is that they believe, with good reason, that to the extent that cryptocurrencies are used for anything besides speculation, much of that activity is criminal — and they don’t want to be accused of acting as accessories.
He goes into the fundamentals of crypto and discusses the only positive aspect of it which is that it may end up being the digital equivalent of gold which underlies the value of money in a purely symbolic way. But who needs it? What’s not working with the current system? Obviously speculators are just seeing the possibility of a big windfall hopefully before the whole thing crashes in which case they’ll probably get a big government bail out.
But the real necessity, as it turns out, is for crime. Having to launder big piles of hundred dollar bills is very cumbersome. He writes:
I don’t know how many people know this, but the great bulk of U.S. currency in circulation, at least in terms of value, consists of $100 bills:
But while the sheer value of $100 bills in circulation suggests that there are still plenty of tax evaders and drug dealers with safes full of cash, banknotes are an awkward medium for really large-scale criminal activity. True, $1 million in $100 bills only weighs 22 pounds; but a million isn’t that much money nowadays. When Bashar al-Assad sent $250 million to Moscow in the form of $100 and 500-euro notes, the cargo weighed two tons.
Enter crypto. British authorities recently broke up a big money-laundering scheme involving exactly the villains you’d expect:
Presumably not everyone in crypto is participating, even unknowingly, in criminal activity. But the use of crypto for money laundering appears to be rising rapidly. And if I were running a bank, I’d be reluctant to host a bank account belonging to someone who might be involved in unsavory activities.
And guess what?
Howard Lutnick, Trump’s choice for Commerce secretary, has close ties to Tether, the company that is at the heart of the scheme the UK just uncovered and is rumored to play a large role in money laundering in general.
Huh. It certainly appears that the new administration may be considering making life easier for criminals. Would you be surprised?
As Tom mentioned this morning in this excellent piece, it sure feels as if whatever resistance there was to Trump during the past 8 years is evaporating. Most of those who haven’t decided to jump on the MAGA bandwagon just don’t want to hear about it. CNN reported yesterday that its latest poll shows that 72% of those polled say they’re paying little to no attention to Trump-related news.
I wrote about one early bright spot in all this a while back: the Blue State Governors. At the moment they seem to be the only ones showing a willingness to fight. Rolling Stone took a deep dive into their plans:
Among governors, [Illinois Governor] Pritzker has been out in front — positioning himself as the blue-state anti-Trump. The Hyatt hotel heir is a billionaire himself, worth nearly $4 billion, which counts as fuck-you money in an age when opposing Trump can carry significant costs, from increased security to the risk of retaliatory litigation, or “lawfare.”
In November, Pritzker launched a new organization, called Governors Safeguarding Democracy, that seeks to unify state-based opposition to Trump’s agenda. Unveiled with co-chair Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado, GSD is built for “pushing back against increasing threats of autocracy,” Pritzker says. Polis expanded on the group’s purpose in an interview with Rolling Stone: “We’re all facing a potential onslaught; let’s pool together so we can share a common response.”
That “onslaught” includes Trump threats to revoke funding from states that don’t follow his reactionary agenda on erasing transgender identity from public education, or to block federal disaster aid from states that don’t loosen environmental protections. Safeguarding residents from ICE is also a priority. “We won’t cooperate with any federal efforts — especially illegal federal efforts that separate families — to deport hardworking, de facto Americans who’ve been here for decades,” Polis says. The group will also focus on “fortifying the institutions of democracy that our country and our states depend upon,” Pritzker says — whether that’s local election boards or state courts.
The governors group has not unveiled a roster of member states, but Rolling Stone has learned that more than 20 are involved. The group’s advisory board includes a formidable, bipartisan brain trust of former governors — Deval Patrick (D-Mass.), Kathleen Sebelius (D-Kan.), Bill Weld (R-Mass.), and Arne Carlson (R-Minn.) — as well as former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates.
GSD is currently probing how states can lock down databases to prevent the Trump administration from tracking undocumented immigrants who have received state driver licenses, for example, or from targeting activists who are arrested while protesting. Behind the scenes, GSD has been prepping states for the fallout from Supreme Court rulings that have undermined federal regulatory agencies, says Julia Spiegel, a former aide to Newsom who is GSD’s top administrator. “Anything from clean air and water to safe medication is potentially under attack now,” she says. “What are states going to do to create the regulatory infrastructure if the federal government is no longer going to be able to do it? Governors are working together to address these big questions — to make sure their state institutions can protect and provide the things of daily life that matter to people most.”
GSD is modeled on the Reproductive Freedom Alliance, which saw Democratic governors unite in defense of reproductive rights after the reversal of Roe v. Wade. That included organizing bulk purchases of abortion drugs — negotiated at a discount by the state with the largest purchasing power, California. The alliance also developed legislation, for introduction by member states, to safeguard the privacy of women who travel for abortion care and that of the doctors who treat them.
At the press conference launching GSD, Pritzker emphasized the need to remain agile and “swiftly respond to emerging threats.” Pressed for details, he insisted that a proposal by Trump adviser Stephen Miller to deploy National Guard troops from Republican-led states inside “unfriendly” blue states, as part of a mass deportation regime, represented “exactly the kind of question that [GSD] would be considering.” Pritzker insisted that the proposal was illegal — and Illinois “would certainly not cooperate.”
The article goes into the work among activists to hold them to it and it sounds like some serious organizing is going on at the state level.
I truly hope this is true. If these Governors are willing to be the leaders of resistance to Trump then, thank God. And good for the activists too. Somebody needs to do it. The Washington Dems appear to be paralyzed at the moment.
Obviously, many of these governors are planning to run for president so it’s even more gratifying if they’ve decided that going up against MAGA and Donald Trump is good for them and good for the party. I can’t say that I’m hearing much of that from anyone else.
Thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone who’s supported this site this year. It’s a validation of the work we put into it and I appreciate it so much. It appears that indy media, however small, is going to be more important than ever in these next few years. Thanks to you, we’ll be here doing our best to make sense of it all.
I don’t honestly know what most people care about anymore but I do know that some of us still find Trump’s attempted coup one of the most shocking events we’ve ever witnessed. A president inciting a mob to storm the Capitol during a joint session of Congress to overturn the presidential election is the most destabilizing event in recent memory. That we’ve put that president back in the White House is a very disturbing sign that this country has lost its moorings.
Well, we’re going to look at each individual case, and we’re going to do it very quickly, and it’s going to start in the first hour that I get into office. And a vast majority of them should not be in jail. A vast majority should not be in jail, and they’ve suffered gravely. And I say, why is it that in Portland and in many other places, Minneapolis, why is it that nothing happened with them and they actually caused death and destruction at levels not seen before? So you know, if you take a look at what happened in Seattle, you had people die, you had a lot of death, and nothing happened, and these people have been treated really, really badly. Yeah, it’s an important issue for me. They’ve suffered greatly, and in many cases they should not have suffered.
Trump doesn’t care about much and he certainly doesn’t feel as if he has to reward anyone. But these people were loyal to him and they did what he wanted them to do. To the extent he is capable of caring about anyone beyond himself, I think he cares about them. It’s almost certain that he’s going to do it.
Dan Pfeiffer took a look at the political ramifications of this decision should he do it. He says it would be a case of historic malpractice:
Despite Donald Trump’s election, people are not okay with what happened on January 6th. A Data for Progress poll from January 2024 found that nearly three-quarters of voters believe that those involved in storming the Capitol did the wrong thing. More than 60% believe what happened on that day was a “violent insurrection,” and only 16% believe it was a “peaceful protest.” Accounting for the whole poll, it’s clear that only about a third of Republicans believed Trump’s arguments about the assault on the Capitol.
An Ipsos poll from earlier this month found that 61% of Americans disapprove of Trump pardoning people who were convicted of attacking the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. More than six in ten Republicans support the pardons, which is alarmingly high and doesn’t bode well for our two-party system. However, now should be the apex of Donald Trump’s political power. He just won 94% of Republican voters, yet only 61% of Republicans approve of the pardons.
He points out that no polling anywhere thinks this should be a priority. And he believes this presents an opportunity for Democrats:
According to the exit polls, Trump won 9% of voters with an unfavorable opinion of him. None of these voters will be surprised when Trump says offensive things, stomps on previously sacred norms, or lies. The less politically engaged Trump voters aren’t fully aware of the breadth of the Trump agenda, including the details of Project 2025, but they knew the bet they were making. They were willing to take a chance on Trump if he addressed prices and the border (with prices being a much greater part of the equation).
If Trump’s first act is to pardon convicted criminals, some of whom violently attacked police officers, that is a violation of the deal he made with voters. We need to juxtapose everything he does with a failure to address prices. Every moment pardoning a rioter or seeking retribution against his political enemies is a moment not spent lowering the cost of gas and groceries. As Trump admitted in hisTime Magazine interview, prices are unlikely to come down; and when prices stay high, it’s because Trump and the Republicans are focused on helping themselves and their political allies rather than helping American families.
I could not agree with him more. Whether it will make a difference I don’t know but as I wrote earlier, that comment in the same TIME interview about lowering costs being “hard” after his repeated promises to do so should be hung around his neck every time he does anything else. If Democrats can do nothing else (and it increasingly appears that they can’t) they can do this much. Hammer the price of eggs over and over and over again the minute he gets into office and remind everyone that he said the price of everything, housing, rents, cars, eggs etc., was going to go down. It’s literally the easiest political rhetoric on the planet.
I know I’m going to keep doing it and if regular people do this on social media maybe some of the Democrats and serious pundits will do it too. One of Donald Trump’s true insights about modern politics was that repetition is necessary to push any ideas through the information vortex.
I hope you enjoy the fact that Tom Sullivan and I spend a ridiculous amount of time picking through all the great analysis and information out there and try to synthesize it into accessible and (hopefully) entertaining ways. If you do, I’d be grateful if you could put a little something in the Hullabaloo stocking this season.
Hang in there everybody. We’ll get through this if we stick together.
Public Notice’s Noah Berlatsky analyzed Trump’s TIME interview so I didn’t have to. It truly is astonishing that he is apparently considered some sort of political savant considering how incoherent he is. Here’s an excerpt of the Public Notice piece:
To quote from our analysis of his previous Timeinterview, “even after four years as president, Trump has virtually no grasp on any policy issue beyond empty talking points, most of which are lies.” And he ain’t changing.
Even when Trump is trying to sound reasonable, he’s hampered by the fact that his knowledge of issues never goes deeper than talking points. Perhaps even worse, he’s clearly in thrall to the world’s worst conspiracy theorists and authoritarian rulers.
Obviously, his admission that it’s “hard” to bring down prices is the takeaway from this interview and Berlatsky gives it the full treatment, But there’s more. Here he was on abortion:
I’m not sure he even knows what the abortion pill is but he most certainly was not “strongly against” stopping it. Right now he’s struggling to appear “presidential” so he thinks he’s being moderate but it’s pretty clear he really doesn’t give a damn about reproductive rights and as a result will very likely allow his right wing zealots to have their way.
Berlatsky writes that Trump is weirdly trying to distance himself from the harsh transgender stance he took on the campaign trail. This is a man who ran vicious ads against trans people on a loop and said daily that schools were performing gender reassignment surgery against the parents’ wishes! But here he is dismissing the issue as
Cute. He goes into Trump’s discussion of Ukraine and Israel in which he proves once again that he is completely uneducated on the subject and has no interest in learning anything about it. It’s all about how it “never would have happened” if he had been president and that it will all stop once he is simply because he declares that it will or very bad things will happen. Same old same old.
He went on and on about expelling immigrants and as Berlatsky writes, he talked about how he would punish any foreign country that refuses to accept them:
Time also asked Trump where he would send migrants if their home countries do not want to accept them. He tried to dodge, saying “I’ll get them into every country, or we won’t do business with those countries.” But when pressed, he acknowledged he might in fact might have to build concentration camps to house them.
“I don’t care,” he said. “Whatever it takes to get them out.”
“I don’t care” is not generally what you want to hear from a president, especially when he’s discussing plans to conduct militarized deportation raids in parts of the country that don’t want them. But based on this interview, and on the entire rest of his political career, “I don’t care” does seem to sum up Trump’s approach to most issues that don’t directly involve puffing up his ego.
After a decade at the center of Republican and American politics, Trump continues to barely pretend to understand the broad outlines, much less the nuances, of his own agenda. When he talks about abortion, or tariffs, or trans people, or concentration camps, or Ukraine, or Gaza, he cheerfully flatters himself and talks about how great he’s going to make everything. But he offers few policy details, and when he does, those details are almost always conspiracy theories and lies.
By contrast here’s a 15 minute interview with the president everyone says is demented. Joe Biden is no Barack Obama or Bill Clinton when it comes to oratory or political analysis. But he’s not Donald Trump either. It’s amazing that America hates this man and loves the addled weirdo who clearly has no idea what he’s talking about.
It’s a damn shame Joe Biden isn’t getting a second term.
Watch him actually answer questions like an adult with depth—then compare it to Trump’s word salads. The downgrade is almost comical.pic.twitter.com/czlHEThc8e
