CBS’ JOHN ROBERTS: Lawyers familiar with the case think Wednesday is when special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will make known his decision, and that there will be indictments. Supporters say Rove and the vice president’s chief of staff, Scooter Libby, are in legal jeopardy. But they insisted today the two are secondary players, that it was an unidentified Mr. X who actually gave the name of CIA agent V alerie Plame to reporters. Fitzgerald knows who Mr. X is, they say, and if he isn’t indicted, there’s no way Rove or Libby should be. But charges may not focus on the leak at all. Obstruction of justice or perjury are real possibilities. Did Rove or Libby change statements made under oath? Did they deliberately leave critical facts out of their testimony or did they honestly forget? Some Republicans urged Rove to step down if indicted. Not a happy prospect for president Bush.
Everybody dance now…
Fitzgerald knows who he is — why he could even be indicted for revealing the identity of a CIA agent and endangering national security! But, there are a bunch of other people who know who Mr X is, aren’t there? They are called “reporters” — the ones to whom Mr X allegedly leaked in the first place.
Won’t it be nice when the public is finally informed about all the things half the Washington Press corpse has been keeping secret?
It’s clear that the White House defense is to slime Joe Wilson some more. The Washington Post helpfully kicked off the new campaign just this morning.
Top administration officials are looking at federal indictments for crimes committed while sliming Joseph Wilson and they just keep at it. These people really do take that “stay the course” thing seriously, don’t they?
Maybe some of the borg ought to check out how Bush looks at their future if this “resolute” strategy doesn’t pan out:
They describe him as beset but unbowed, convinced that history will vindicate the major decisions of his presidency even if they damage him and his party in the 2006 and 2008 elections.
I guess you loyal GOP boys and girls are just going to have to take one for the team. He’ll be vindicated eventually. And he doesn’t have to run again, so what the hell. The rest of you can just piss up a rope.
There is a reason why the saying “it’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up” has become a truism in these high profile political scandals. In the first place, no matter who does it, when someone covers up a crime they tend to make it more difficult to prosecute it, obviously. For instance, suppose that Novak and Rove conspired to get their stories straight. You can’t prove what was originally said because they’ve decided to lie about it. But if you can prove that they lied to the authorities or took affirmative measures to obstruct an investigation in which it could have been found that they committed a crime, you prosecute. Committing a crime to cover up something that may or may not be a crime is still a crime.
In the political world, it happens all the time because people are as concerned about appearances as they are about legalities — maybe more. They will cover-up actions that might not be technically illegal, but will make them look bad because they are unethical or just plain slimy. But covering up slimy political activity by lying to the authorities is illegal and you aren’t allowed to do it. This is particularly true when the underlying slime would have been prosecutable if you hadn’t successfully covered it up.
The Republicans abused the legal system shamelessly during the Clinton administration by financing the Paula Jones lawsuit and holding endless phony congressional investigations into arcane, trivial and lurid tabloid matters that had nothing to do with the administration’s behavior in office. They forced the appointments of an endless string of independent prosecutors and actively “criminalized” politics for partisan gain. The alleged crime and sleazy behavior in the Lewinsky case involved the prosaic and ordinary act of a middle aged man having an affair with a younger woman and lying about it. The American people understood it for what it was and rejected the notion that it was criminal. It is typical of the Modern Republican Party to now accuse the special prosecutor of doing what they themselves did. The GOP truly is Projection R Us.
However, the Fitzgerald investigation is not a partisan witchhunt and the underlying crime may have been awful — David Ensor on CNN says that his sources in the CIA report that there was real damage in Plame’s outing. This is meaningful. If the crime was covering up the purposeful or accidental revelation of a CIA operative for purely political purposes, it deserves to be prosecuted.
These are people with tremendous power to shape events. They are answerable only to the public in a relativist world in which media manipulation and marketing have made it very difficult to persuade people that there is any sort of objective truth. The legal system is the only forum left in which people are held liable for lying and in which there are rules and procedures for hearing all sides of the story in a coherent fashion. Sadly, epistemic relativist Republicans and their media helpmates have managed to pretty much eliminate all other avenues for finding out the truth.
And may I second Tristero’s post below:
Traitors simply cannot be permitted to continue to serve at the highest levels of goverment. And that is a principle worth defending, no matter what it takes.
When playing with national security for mere political purposes and personal grudges becomes politics as usual, this country is in serious danger. These people must be stopped. Even Nixon didn’t stoop this low.
The Pentagon said Staff Sergeant George Alexander, 34, had died on Saturday of injuries sustained eight days ago when a roadside bomb set by insurgents blew up near his vehicle in the town of Samarra.
[snip]
In the Iraq war, which began in March 2003, more than 15,000 U.S. troops also have been wounded in action.
Casualties among Iraqis have been far higher, first in the invasion and then the insurgency that elections and October 15’s constitution referendum have failed to calm.
Kristof’s op-ed which I ridiculed below, represents the elite media CW about Traitorgate that is now going public. I heard these same arguments from journalist friends over the summer. They are quite wrong. The issue of whether a crime can be legally proven is a technicality. An important technicality to be sure, but nevertheless not the real point.
It’s quite clear what happened: Treason was committed at the highest levels of the Bush administration. Can it be proven? Yes, in fact it has been proven. The convergence of already available evidence makes treason the most plausible conclusion. Is there enough evidence to stand up in a court of law and prove treason in a legalistic, technical sense? We don’t yet know, but that doesn’t mean that treason wasn’t committed, just as OJ Simpson’s acquittal doesn’t mean he was innocent of murder. Of course, the law must presume innocence in order to function. The civil community, meaning among others the mass media, doesn’t have to operate with that presumption. That doesn’t give anyone the right to sling around reckless charges. In this case, the accusation of treason rests, already, on an enormous amount of evidence that leads to that conclusion.
This case, like Simpson’s, is very simple, if perhaps difficult to legally prove. A CIA agent was deliberately exposed by people who had sworn never to do so. That has the potential to undermine the safety and intelligence gathering capability of the US. By exposing a CIA agent, they have aided this country’s enemies. That is a betrayal of country, in a word: Treason.
All the “yes, buts” are just so many “gloves that don’t fit” and the like. It doesn’t matter whether Ames had leaked her name to the Russians, or even if Plame had worn a button saying, “Kiss me! I’m CIA!” No one working in government had the right to mention her name outside highly classified circles, even if it was “just to confirm” info from other places.
Legal, schmegal, these slimeballs are traitors. That the MSM is falling for the GOP line, that blatant treason is being seriously discussed as “maybe just a policy dispute” and “no big deal,” just “politics as usual,” and “not a crime” should probably not surprise anyone. And it is not surprising that anyone who calls these traitors by their proper name will be more or less banned from the mainstream media. That is how low this country’s media have sunk. That is how low this country’s “public intellectuals” have sunk.
It hasn’t always been like this. The little secret about most of “Left Blogistan” is that we’re not that far left: actually most of the folks I read are moderates or moderate liberals. Need an example? Atrios will do, not to mention the brilliant Digby. In truth, many of us in “Left Blogistan” don’t have much patience with radicalism, socialism, revolution, class analyses. As for social mores, few of us live the frisky, often reckless, lives enjoyed by so many rightwing priests and GOP bigwigs. It is an indication of just how far right the discourse has become that Kristof is considered a thoughtful left-wing commentator and that Krugman – a pro-globalization Reagan official – is dubbed a radical leftist.
Now back when moderate liberals were actually provided regular access to the mass media, there would have been no problem labelling treasonable behavior as exactly that. Today, since no one “reasonable” can use that word -unless you’re on the right, of course- the moral outrage all Americans should feel about this exposure never happens. And so it goes.
These traitors are not, and never were, the state, despite what DeLay boasted. This government is no man or woman, this is not the United States of Cheney/Libby/Rove/Bush, et al. These are merely people who work for the state and the state is us. And some of them have betrayed us and aided our enemies. They are traitors. Given what we already know, it is high time those who betrayed us resign, all of them, regardless of whether treason technically can be proven in a court of law. The very hint that a high government official may have been involved in the exposure of a CIA agent should be reason enough to go, and go now.
Since we are dealing with scoundrels of the highest order and they will never resign, they nevertheless must be brought to trial on whatever legally admissible evidence, if any, Fitzgerald has. A constitutional crisis might result, but that is not Fitzgerald’s doing. That is what these traitors have been spoiling for since the 2000 election fiasco; that’s what Schiavo was about, what the torture condoning was about, what the filibuster rule change was about. Such a crisis would be as wracking to this country’s psyche as Katrina was to its citizens. But they have made it all but unavoidable.
There is absolutely nothing to be gained by a constitutional crisis and no sane opponent of the Bush administration should welcome one. But there is no longer anything to be gained by appeasement, either, and much to lose. Traitors simply cannot be permitted to continue to serve at the highest levels of goverment. And that is a principle worth defending, no matter what it takes.
(Edited slightly after original posting, to fix typos, mostly.)
This scandal is about destroying and diverting national security resources for petty political gains and using the power of the White House to attack American citizens. If that is not justification for impeachment than nothing meets the test.]
I’ve decided that Nick Kristof needs help, my help. He seems to have Attention Deficit Disorder and has not been taking his Ritalin. After a very promising start to his op-ed today on Traitorgate, Kristof starts to ramble, finally degenerating into total incoherence, something about Les Miserables or some other Broadway musical he once saw a long time ago.
Anyway, I’ve decided to help him refocus. Now, here is how Nick’s column begins, before it goes off the rails:
Before dragging any Bush administration officials off to jail, we should pause and take a long, deep breath.
Not bad, eh? I agree. Now, here’s how he should have continued, but didn’t:
Before dragging any Bush administration officials off to jail, we should pause and take a long, deep breath.
Then, we should firmly grasp their arms and legs, and, being sure we lift from our knees, toss them into a nearby tar pit, cover them in feathers, and frog march them into the closest federal penitentiary for a very long, hopefully lifelong, incarceration.
“He’s a vile, detestable, moralistic person with no heart and no conscience who believes he’s been tapped by God to do very important things,” one White House ally said, referring to special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald.
I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, first learned about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the leak investigation in a conversation with Mr. Cheney weeks before her identity became public in 2003, lawyers involved in the case said Monday.
Notes of the previously undisclosed conversation between Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney on June 12, 2003, appear to differ from Mr. Libby’s testimony to a federal grand jury that he initially learned about the C.I.A. officer, Valerie Wilson, from journalists, the lawyers said.
The notes, taken by Mr. Libby during the conversation, for the first time place Mr. Cheney in the middle of an effort by the White House to learn about Ms. Wilson’s husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV, who was questioning the administration’s handling of intelligence about Iraq’s nuclear program to justify the war.
Lawyers said the notes show that Mr. Cheney knew that Ms. Wilson worked at the C.I.A. more than a month before her identity was made public and her undercover status was disclosed in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak on July 14, 2003.
Mr. Libby’s notes indicate that Mr. Cheney had gotten his information about Ms. Wilson from George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, in response to questions from the vice president about Mr. Wilson. But they contain no suggestion that either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby knew at the time of Ms. Wilson’s undercover status or that her identity was classified. Disclosing a covert agent’s identity can be a crime, but only if the person who discloses it knows the agent’s undercover status.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. I don’t know Joe Wilson. I’ve never met Joe Wilson. A question had arisen. I’d heard a report that the Iraqis had been trying to acquire uranium in Africa, Niger in particular. I get a daily brief on my own each day before I meet with the president to go through the intel. And I ask lots of question. One of the questions I asked at that particular time about this, I said, “What do we know about this?” They take the question. He came back within a day or two and said, “This is all we know. There’s a lot we don’t know,” end of statement. And Joe Wilson—I don’t who sent Joe Wilson. He never submitted a report that I ever saw when he came back.
I guess the intriguing thing, Tim, on the whole thing, this question of whether or not the Iraqis were trying to acquire uranium in Africa. In the British report, this week, the Committee of the British Parliament, which just spent 90 days investigating all of this, revalidated their British claim that Saddam was, in fact, trying to acquire uranium in Africa. What was in the State of the Union speech and what was in the original British White papers. So there may be difference of opinion there. I don’t know what the truth is on the ground with respect to that, but I guess—like I say, I don’t know Mr. Wilson. I probably shouldn’t judge him. I have no idea who hired him and it never came…
MR. RUSSERT: The CIA did.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Who in the CIA, I don’t know.
Evidently, when he was chatting with Tenet and Libby about Wilson’s CIA wife he forgot to ask Tenet who in the CIA hired him. Now, that doesn’t sound right, does it?
the horrible situation in Pakistan, where tens of thousands have died, and tens of thousands more, including children, still have not received any aid.
Let’s look at the facts:
50,000 dead, maybe more, many of whom were children, who were in school at the moment the quake hit.
10,000 more children are facing imminent death due to injury, infection, disease, starvation, dehydration, exposure to the sub-zero temperatures at night. 120,000 children are at risk.
These figures are conservative. And aid money has not been coming.
Almost two weeks after the quake, less than 14 per cent of the UN’s emergency appeal for £180 million has been received.
Unicef, the UN children’s organisation, yesterday estimated that 10,000 children will die in weeks. The figure was described as “conservative” by a UN field worker.
Although the official death count remains at 49,739, local authorities put it at almost 80,000.
And once again, it is not only simple humanity that cries out for a concerted effort to help. Sheer self-interest points to making the rescue of the abject in Pakistan a major international priority. Guaranteed: if the rest of the world wont help, Osama will.