“Americans want Democrats to stand up to Bush,” the Wall Street Journal’s Washington Wire reports. “Fully 60%, including one-fourth of Republicans, say Democrats in Congress should make sure Bush and his party ‘don’t go too far.’ Just 34% want Democrats to ‘work in a bipartisan way’ to help pass the president’s priorities.”
We all know that the Republicans have spent may years damning our party for being weak, traitorous and cowardly. This seems like a very good opportunity to begin to turn that around. People want the Democrats to obstruct the excesses of the GOP — even a quarter of the GOP itself.
Perhaps the best way to put this is simply to say it exactly as the question is worded. “We are keeping the Republicans from going too far.” There’s a certain common sense ring to that that I think a lot of people understand instinctively. This may be the key to why the public hasn’t rallied around the social security privatization phase out plan. They can feel that the Republicans are just going too far.
Update: Let me clarify that I am not advocating this as a campaign slogan or a Democratic rallying cry. I’m talking about a public legislative strategy, which is what I think was being addressed in this poll. We are in the minority and the American people have assigned us a role to play. We should play it, take the credit and position outselves as the voices of sanity against a radical right wing bunch of nuts — which happens to be true. One of the ways that we convey this is by standing together, not cutting deals and consistently portraying the other side as out of control — which also happens to be true.
This isn’t a capitulation. It’s framing us as the regular people and them as the crazies for a change — something that 60% of the American people seem to agree is at least a possibility. This is a good things folks. We can work with it.
Thanks to Liberal Avenger we can hear another interview with JimJeff Gannon on WBUR from last week. Here’s what he said about Plame:
Q: We began by asking about the highly classified Plame documents which in the past Gannon boasted about having access to.
G: That’s not something I’m able to discuss.
Q: You discussed it on your web site
G: Let me just say this about this memo that’s being discussed. When I say accessible I am talking about information contained therein.
Q: As you well know, two New York Times reporters are facing jail sentences for not revealing their sources regarding the name Valerie Plame and they didn’t even comment or print anything about this
G: Yes that’s terrible. That’s unfortunate.
Q: Well has anyone from the Plame investigation contacted you?
G: Uh, yes
Q: And?
G: I really can’t speak to that. As a journalist it would be wrong to do that.
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Q: Can you understand why some would say you’ve only written for two years, for a Republican backed blog, you’ve had no previous reporting experiences, why were you shown sensitive material regarding CIA material?
G: I can understand how somebody would ask that question but one had nothing to do with the other. I did good work. I pursued a story. I got a great interview with Ambassador Wilson. I should get an award for that.
I continue to be confused as to why Gannon didn’t just say, “I read about it in the Wall Street Journal like everybody else,” if that’s what happened. The question would just go away.
Update:
People continue to miss the point so I will spell it out. Yes, it is likely that GG just lifted the WSJ article. That’s what he calls journalism. However, he told people that he got the info from somewhere else and he has continued to be less than forthcoming about it. It is always possible that somebody told him about it AND he lifted the story from the WSJ.
My personal opionion is that he may have lied to the FBI and is afraid to admit that he had no “confidential source.” If that’s the case, Fitzgerald has a reason to squeeze this guy and who knows where that could lead? They are about to send two reporters to jail over this stuff.
But it could just as easily be that he still doesn’t realize what deep shit he’s in and thinks that he may someday work as a “journalist” again so he is afraid to admit that he was full of shit when he was bragging all over Free Republic. He doesn’t seem very bright.
But guys, it doesn’t matter. It’s this kind of thing that keeps this story alive. Connection to the Plame controversy is one of the hooks that the major media have to hang on to. As long as GG behaves in this way, it gives reporters another reason to keep digging. Capiche?
Could the next reporter who gets JimJeff in his crosshairs please pin him down on this Plame memo issue? This is ridiculous. He has never really answered the question properly.
Although he hinted that he had not seen a classified CIA document after all, he added, “I am not going to speak to that. It goes to something of a nature I do not want to discuss.”
GANNON: And the FBI did come to interview me. They were interested in where — how I knew or received a copy of a confidential CIA memo that said that Valerie Plame suggested that Joe Wilson be sent on this mission, something that everybody — they have all vigorously denied but is, in effect, true.
BLITZER: So they didn’t make you go testify before the grand jury?
GANNON: No.
BLITZER: Do you have to reveal how you got that memo?
GANNON: No.
BLITZER: They didn’t ask you?
GANNON: Well, the FBI kept asking. I said, well, look, I’m a journalist, I can’t —
BLITZER: You didn’t tell them?
GANNON: Yes. Can’t divulge that. And they accepted that, and I’ve never been asked again.
GANNON: I didn’t do that at all. I didn’t do that at all. If you read the question, and I provided — my article was actually a transcript of my conversation with Ambassador Wilson — I made reference to a memo. And this…
COOPER: How did you know about that memo?
GANNON: Well, this memo was referred to in a “Wall Street Journal” article a week earlier.
COOPER: So that wasn’t based on any information that you had been given by the White House?
GANNON: I was given no special information by the White House or by anybody else, for that matter.
Suddenly he’s pointing out that the memo was mentioned in the Wall Street Journal but he doesn’t say explicitly that he read it there.
“What I said was no more than what was reported in The Wall Street Journal a week before,” he said.
In none of those statements does he simply say, “I got the information from the WSJ story.” Look how he dances around it. No “special” information. “What I said was no more that what was reported.” He has been coached to answer this way.
There is enough evidence now to indicate that he is not being straightforward on this question. Did he get the information from the WSJ article or not and if not, where else did he hear about it?
The question was who was spreading this bogus state department memo. From the Washington Post at the time:
“Sources said the CIA is angry about the circulation of a still-classified document to conservative news outlets suggesting Plame had a role in arranging her husband’s trip to Africa for the CIA. The document, written by a State Department official who works for its Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), describes a meeting at the CIA where the Niger trip by Wilson was discussed, said a senior administration official who has seen it.
“CIA officials have challenged the accuracy of the INR document, the official said, because the agency officer identified as talking about Plame’s alleged role in arranging Wilson’s trip could not have attended the meeting.”
Now maybe Gannon did just read about this in the Wall Street Journal. But if he did he sure has acted strangely about it, even as recently as yesterday when talking to the NY Times. It’s possible that he played games with the FBI when they came knocking and pretended that he had a confidential source when he didn’t. That, of course, would be against the law. A law that when broken can cost you a lot of money and possible jail time. You cannot lie to the FBI. That is why Martha Stewart is in jail and it’s why Henry Cisneros spent almost a decade in the dock of a special prosecutor —- he didn’t tell them the exact amount of money he paid his ex-lover.
I don’t know if that’s what happened, but something did. I do know that Gannon could end all the speculation by simply saying “I never saw the memo, I read about it in the paper and pretended that I did.” The question is why doesn’t he?
Update: Justin Raimindo has been on this angle for some time.
Did anyone happen to catch the happy little hen party on Chris Matthews week-end show tonight in which Chris, Clarence Page, Kathleen Parker, Andrew Sullivan and Gloria Borger ripped Hillary for being a “castrating Bitch” and “Nurse Ratchet” replete with a full-on harpy imitation by Borger? I’ve never seen anything like this (at least where Ann Coulter and Nancy Grace weren’t involved.) Then they sharpened their claws on Martha Stewart, Gloria saying that people will find her interesting because the less they see of her the more they like her. Everyone cackled wickedly as she went on to mock her potential good works on behalf of women prisoners. Andy snorted delicately.
Then they all pitched in on the Stalinists at PCU who are allegedly persecuting Larry Summers. Clarence tried valiently to make an argument but both Andy and Gloria were eyerolling and smirking to such a degree that Chris couldn’t really keep a straight face. He told Gloria he liked the fact that she turned up her nose at this “PC nonsense.” She lowered her eyes flirtatiosly, batted her lashes and veritably glowed with his praise.
I’m not exaggerating about the castrating bitch line either. Borger said that as the jews gave Joe Lieberman a lot of trouble so will the women give Hillary problems. (I don’t remember the jewish community’s Lieberman rebellion, do you?) And Chris agreed that the men sitting in their chairs watching television are all thinking “I’ll never vote for this woman.” He does admit, though, that women become less threatening when they get old.
What in the hell is wrong with these people? Are they regularly appearing on television drunk now? It was like watching a sketch on The Daily Show. Can we get Soros or somebody to pitch in and just pay them to stop? I’ll donate.
Update: It appears they aren’t alone in meanspirited douchbaggery this week-end. Kevin Drum excerpts Susan Estrich’s latest little bit of nasty in her ongoing pursuit of being the most unlikeable person in the world as she battles wits with Michael Kinsley, editorial editor of the LA Times and Parkinson’s sufferer:
Far from being “pissed off,” I believe I have conducted myself with admirable restraint because of our past relationship and my honest concerns for your health.
….My suggestion that your publishing [my letter] would be better (for you too) than my having to go outside somehow constitutes me blackmailing you is so outlandish that it underscores the question I’ve been asked repeatedly in recent days, and that does worry me, and should worry you: people are beginning to think that your illness may have affected your brain, your judgment, and your ability to do this job.
For those who aren’t following this story (scroll down), Estrich is pissed off that Kinsley hasn’t been featuring more women, specifically her, on the op-ed pages of the LA Times. I cannot speculate about why there aren’t more women on the op-ed pages of the LA Times, but it’s my observation that Susan is no longer very coherent most of the time. She has become Fox’s Pat Cadell. I seem to recall that she was reportedly a bit tipsy in New Hampshire during the primary last year telling anyone who would listen, “they jussht pay us so mush moooney!!!”
Now we find out that she is simply a douchebag. Buh bye.
Before Junior ran for president he had some conversations with evangelical friend Doug Wead. He wasn’t quite sure how to handle the religious right. Wead taped the conversations.
Mr. Bush, who has acknowledged a drinking problem years ago, told Mr. Wead on the tapes that he could withstand scrutiny of his past. He said it involved nothing more than “just, you know, wild behavior.” He worried, though, that allegations of cocaine use would surface in the campaign, and he blamed his opponents for stirring rumors. “If nobody shows up, there’s no story,” he told Mr. Wead, “and if somebody shows up, it is going to be made up.” But when Mr. Wead said that Mr. Bush had in the past publicly denied using cocaine, Mr. Bush replied, “I haven’t denied anything.”
That “if nobody shows up” line sounds like something out of the Sopranos. He later says that his whole “young and immature” thing was “his schtick.” This comment makes me really believe, for the first time, that JH Hatfield was set up.
What is really revealing about these conversations is Bush’s attitude toward gays and the extent to which he kissed James Dobson’s ass.
In September 1998, Mr. Bush told Mr. Wead that he was getting ready for his first meeting with James C. Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, an evangelical self-help group. Dr. Dobson, probably the most influential evangelical conservative, wanted to examine the candidate’s Christian credentials.
“He said he would like to meet me, you know, he had heard some nice things, you know, well, ‘I don’t know if he is a true believer’ kind of attitude,” Mr. Bush said.
[…]
By the end of the primary, Mr. Bush alluded to Dr. Dobson’s strong views on abortion again, apparently ruling out potential vice presidents including Gov. Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania and Gen. Colin L. Powell, who favored abortion rights. Picking any of them could turn conservative Christians away from the ticket, Mr. Bush said.
“They are not going to like it anyway, boy,” Mr. Bush said. “Dobson made it clear.”
Early on, though, Mr. Bush appeared most worried that Christian conservatives would object to his determination not to criticize gay people. “I think he wants me to attack homosexuals,” Mr. Bush said after meeting James Robison, a prominent evangelical minister in Texas.
But Mr. Bush said he did not intend to change his position. He said he told Mr. Robison: “Look, James, I got to tell you two things right off the bat. One, I’m not going to kick gays, because I’m a sinner. How can I differentiate sin?”
Later, he read aloud an aide’s report from a convention of the Christian Coalition, a conservative political group: “This crowd uses gays as the enemy. It’s hard to distinguish between fear of the homosexual political agenda and fear of homosexuality, however.”
“This is an issue I have been trying to downplay,” Mr. Bush said. “I think it is bad for Republicans to be kicking gays.”
Told that one conservative supporter was saying Mr. Bush had pledged not to hire gay people, Mr. Bush said sharply: “No, what I said was, I wouldn’t fire gays.”
I don’t pretend to know what animates Junior so much on the issue of gays, but something does. Clearly he’s very uncomfortable with the intolerance so many in his party show on the issue. Indeed, these conversations show him to be more liberal on this issue than any other I can think of. And it’s quite out of character.
But what does it matter when the asshole turned around and just ran a stealth campaign based entirely on homophobia? I doubt very seriously that he privately shared his tolerance for gays with that sadistic dog abuser James Dobson. (I would suspect that Dobson and his followers are going to be more than a bit miffed by these revelations.) In fact, Bush and his party had no problem gay baiting the entire Democratic party, particularly John Kerry, with their nasty frat boy innuendoes — as they have for the last thirty years. It isn’t, after all, just the Christian conservatives who so enjoy that towel slapping hyper-masculine swagger that Junior affects with such panache. There are plenty of good ole boys who trade in this form of macho posing as well. All this Bushian tolerance toward gays would have sorely tested that heroic manly red state image, wouldn’t it?
So he did what the Bushes always do. He played dirty. Speaking of Gore, not Kerry (but it makes no difference) he said “I may have to get a little rough for a while,” he told Mr. Wead, “but that is what the old man had to do with Dukakis, remember?”
This man who pretends to feel such empathy for gays is the same man who ran on a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, told James Byrd’s family to take a hike, signed off on 150 plus executions without looking up from his gameboy and now claims that the constitution gives him the total power to order torture and execution in the name of the War On Terror.
This goes beyond hypocrisy. It’s downright pathological. The Republican coalition consists of a racists, homophobes, dupes and the rich selfish bastards who tell them whatever they want to hear in order to get elected. I hope their religion is real because if it is they are all going to spend eternity in the ninth circle of hell.
Many have written about this moving and sad post at Riverbend and I hope that many people will read it and pass it on.
This Iraqi woman has not been liberated. She is being slowly imprisoned, probably for the rest of her life, by a male dominated fundamentalist (that’s a redundancy) religious political system that is going to ruin her life. You can feel it in her words. It’s one of the saddest things I’ve read in the long trail of horrors that this Iraq misadventure has wrought.
I nodded and handed over the bags to be weighed. “Well… they’re going to turn us into another Iran. You know list 169 means we might turn into Iran.” Abu Ammar pondered this a moment as he put the bags on the old brass scale and adjusted the weights.
“And is Iran so bad?” He finally asked. Well no, Abu Ammar, I wanted to answer, it’s not bad for *you* – you’re a man… if anything your right to several temporary marriages, a few permanent ones and the right to subdue females will increase. Why should it be so bad? Instead I was silent. It’s not a good thing to criticize Iran these days. I numbly reached for the bags he handed me, trying to rise out of that sinking feeling that overwhelmed me when the results were first made public.
It’s not about a Sunni government or a Shia government- it’s about the possibility of an Iranian-modeled Iraq. Many Shia are also appalled with the results of the elections. There’s talk of Sunnis being marginalized by the elections but that isn’t the situation. It’s not just Sunnis- it’s moderate Shia and secular people in general who have been marginalized.
The list is frightening- Da’awa, SCIRI, Chalabi, Hussein Shahristani and a whole collection of pro-Iran political figures and clerics. They are going to have a primary role in writing the new constitution. There’s talk of Shari’a, or Islamic law, having a very primary role in the new constitution. The problem is, whose Shari’a? Shari’a for many Shia differs from that of Sunni Shari’a. And what about all the other religions? What about Christians and Mendiyeen?
Is anyone surprised that the same people who came along with the Americans – the same puppets who all had a go at the presidency last year – are the ones who came out on top in the elections? Jaffari, Talbani, Barazani, Hakim, Allawi, Chalabi… exiles, convicted criminals and war lords. Welcome to the new Iraq.
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It’s also not about covering the hair. I have many relatives and friends who wore a hijab before the war. It’s the principle. It’s having so little freedom that even your wardrobe is dictated. And wardrobe is just the tip of the iceberg. There are clerics and men who believe women shouldn’t be able to work or that they shouldn’t be allowed to do certain jobs or study in specific fields. Something that disturbed me about the election forms was that it indicated whether the voter was ‘male’ or ‘female’- why should that matter? Could it be because in Shari’a, a women’s vote or voice counts for half of that of a man? Will they implement that in the future?
Baghdad is once more shrouded in black. The buildings and even some of the houses have large black pieces of cloth hanging upon them, as if the whole city is mourning the election results. It’s because of “Ashoura” or the ten days marking the beginning of the Islamic New Year but also marking the death of the Prophet’s family 1400+ years ago in what is now known as Karbala. That means there are droves of religious Shia dressed in black from head to foot (sometimes with a touch of green or red) walking in the streets and beating themselves with special devices designed for this occasion.
We’ve been staying at home most of the time because it’s not a good idea to leave the house during these ten days. It took us an hour and 20 minutes to get to my aunt’s house yesterday because so many streets were closed with masses of men chanting and beating themselves. To say it is frightening is an understatement. Some of the men are even bleeding and they wear white to emphasize all the blood flowing down backs and foreheads. It’s painful to see small children wearing black clothes and carrying miniature chains that really don’t hurt, but look so bizarre.
I urge you to read the whole thing.
Despite what the right wing would have everyone believe, one of the primary reasons liberals supported the invasion of Afghanistan was to end the documented horrors that women suffered under the Taliban. Long before the Bush admnistration was negotiating with the Taliban or Republican congressmen were holding privatre meetings with Mullah Omar’s lieutenants trying to make deals for pipelines, Hollywood liberals like Mavis Leno were spearheading the despised Feminist Majority Foundation’s Campaign to Stop Gender Apartheid in Afghanistan. Everything about the Taliban was anathema to people like us who value freedom and equality. When that religious fundamentalist government enabled the direct attack on the United States there was every reason on both moral and national security grounds to support the invasion of that country. Life could not be much worse than it was under the Taliban.
Iraq was always much more complicated. Many of us were extremely suspicious of the evidence that Saddam posed a threat to the United States and as horrible as his regime was, there was always the liklihood that the country would eventually fall into civil war and itself become a fundamentalist theocracy — thus making daily life for a full fifty percent of the population many degrees worse than it was under Saddam. It was never a pretty calculation but it was realistic. We knew all this going in and it is one of the reasons why it was never easy to simply wave the flag and proclaim ourselves liberators. Unless everything went exactly as envisioned by the starry eyed neocons, there was every chance that we would actually make many people less free by our actions.
It appears that this is happening. Not that anyone cares, mind you. If half of the Iraqi population sees a substantial loss of personal freedom from our liberation, it isn’t really a problem. They are, after all, only women.
We on the left are being chastized daily for being terrorist sympathizers. Former presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton are said to be on the other side. Any criticism of the government is Unamerican. And all of this is based upon the idea that liberals are rejecting Western values and putting ourselves in league with Islamic fundamentalists. This is literally nonsensical.
In point of fact, the argument could much more easily be made that it is the other way around. It grows more and more likely that the right, who wholeheartedly supported the war and are currently supporting the political handling of the occupation, deposed a totalitarian dictator to install a repressive fundamentalist theocracy in its place. I fail to see how that advances the cause of our country or western civilization. Indeed, it is a betrayal of everything we stand for.
Who are the real traitors to western enlightenment values — those of us who find both totalitarianism and religious fundamentalism abominations or those who topple dictators to install theocracy? I’d ask the women of Iraq in about five years what they think. Of course, they won’t be allowed to speak freely, so we’ll probably never know.
The lewd side to the Manchurian Beefcake scandal hasn’t really fazed me. The world is full of porn. But this woke me up last night, churning and screaming from nightmares of a sick and revolting nature. Is there no decency left in this world?
Agency for International Development Administrator Andrew S. Natsios may be heading to Dubai and Afghanistan next week, taking along a small press contingent: Rush Limbaugh and, briefly, CNN anchor Daryn Kagan — they are a famous item these days — along with Mary Matalin, who is going as an ex officio White House adviser.
Of course, I’m not surprised that Rush is anxious to see Afghanistan. It is, after all, the opium capital of the world. (Maybe he and Kagan have a Sid and Nancy thing going on.) But dear merciful God, the mere idea of the three of them….((((shudder))))
It’s a good thing I went to the Conservative Political Action Conference this year. Otherwise I never would have known that, despite the findings of the authoritative David Kay report and every reputable media outlet on earth, the United States actually discovered weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, vindicating all of George W. Bush’s pre-war predictions. The revelation came not from some crank at Free Republic or hustler from Talon News, but from a congressman surrounded by men from the highest echelons of American government. No wonder the attendees all seemed to believe him.
The crowd at CPAC’s Thursday night banquet, held at D.C.’s Ronald Reagan Building, was full of right-wing stars. Among those seated at the long presidential table at the head of the room were Henry Hyde, chairman of the House International Relations Committee, Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman, Dore Gold, foreign policy advisor to former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and NRA president Kayne Robinson. Vice President Dick Cheney, a regular CPAC speaker, gave the keynote address. California Rep. Chris Cox had the honor of introducing him, and he took the opportunity to mock the Democrats whose hatred of America led them to get Iraq so horribly wrong.
“America’s Operation Iraqi Freedom is still producing shock and awe, this time among the blame-America-first crowd,” he crowed. Then he said, “We continue to discover biological and chemical weapons and facilities to make them inside Iraq.” Apparently, most of the hundreds of people in attendance already knew about these remarkable, hitherto-unreported discoveries, because no one gasped at this startling revelation.
This is not surprising, really. These people have grown quite accustomed to the “you can believe me or you can believe your lying eyes” political leadership and actually seem to prefer it. It makes everything so nice and simple.
That article reminds me of this this op-ed by Tony Blankley in which he fantasized that Larry David, the biggest liberal in Hollywood was actually a conservative if only he realized it:
But if he is anything like his character, he is, at heart, a conservative: He refuses to put up with nonsense; he’s remorselessly politically incorrect, and he is fundamentally sensible. If he’ll just listen, I’ll expose his mind to the sensible conservative explanations for the great issues of the day. He’ll be my first convert deep in the belly of the liberal Hollywood beast.
My father used to think that Archie Bunker was funny. He laughed and laughed at his jokes. He had no clue that the rest of us in the family were laughing because he was Archie Bunker. Just that way, Blankley has no idea that Larry David’s character is a disgusting person. Indeed, he’s verging on the insane. Yes, he is funny. But he’s funny because Larry David knows very well that his character is, like Blankley, a total jerk.
I guess this just proves once again that the conservative movement is “completely divorced from reality.”