A Matter Of Trust
by digby
Kevin Drum, Marshall Wittman and John Dickerson all issue dire warnings to the Democrats not to:
a) challenge the Republicans on the illegal NSA wiretapping scandal (and by extension the administration’s belief that the president has the power as both a unitary executive and commander in chief to ignore the laws) because the Republicans will wipe the floor with us just as they did over the Homeland Security issue in 2002.
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b) get too excited about Abramoff because with Iran out there threatening, Bush will be able to use national security as effectively as he did in the past.
To all of that I say balderdash. Times have changed. There is no longer a single “boogeymahn” narrative. Not after Iraq.
The politics are very different now than they were in 2002. This country is no longer in thrall to a president with an 80% approval rating. Iraq is a huge drag, the Republicans’ credibility is in shreds because of it — and the Abramoff scandal just reinforces the whole ugly mess. The man with the bullhorn is now seen as the man with the bullshit to around 60% of voters.
Here are some numbers on the NSA scandal:
“As you may know, the Bush Administration has been wiretapping telephone conversations between U.S. citizens living in the United States and suspected terrorists living in other countries without getting a court order allowing it to do so…Do you think the Bush Administration was right or wrong in wiretapping these conversations without obtaining a court order?”
Right Wrong Unsure
50 46 4
Even when its worded in the most administration friendly way possible(“between US citizens and suspected terrorists”) half the country is against it. What do you think will happen when most people understand that the conversations were not just with “suspected terrorists?” After all, all these thousands of Americans who have allegedly been chatting to suspected terrorists overseas are still walking free; the only thwarted plot they’ve mentioned was some bozo from Cleveland who wanted to dismantle the Brooklyn bridge with a blowtorch.
Here’s another polling question to ponder:
“Do you think the Republican Party or the Democratic Party can do a better job of writing laws which help the government find terrorists without violating the average person’s rights?”
Republican/Democrat/Both/Neither/Unsure
1/5-8/06 33 42 5 7 13
12/7-10/01 33 26 14 7 20
As long as we are being crassly political, this is an important question:
“After 9/11, President Bush authorized government wiretaps on some phone calls in the U.S. without getting court warrants, saying this was necessary in order to reduce the threat of terrorism. Do you approve or disapprove of the President doing this?”
Approve/Disapprove/Unsure
ALL adults 49 48 3
Republicans 82 17 1
Democrats 31 67 2
Independents 41 54 5
From an electoral standpoint, (unless you think that the 31% of Democrats who support this will vote for Republicans because of it) the number to look at there is the independent voter. That’s the swing vote and they don’t like it.
Finally, there’s this:
“During wartime, some presidents have either received or assumed special war powers, which give the president more authority to act independently when he feels it is necessary. In the current campaign against terrorism, is it a good idea or a bad idea for the president to have the authority to make changes in the rights usually guaranteed by the Constitution?”
Good Idea/Bad Idea/Unsure
1/5-8/06 36 57 7
12/7-10/01 64 29 7
To be fair there are a bunch of questions in this poll that indicate that people don’t care much about this or support the president. They are all over the map. Which means that this is one of those issues about which people are still open to persuasion.
I do not think this is the same country that it was in 2002 and we are finally able to look at these issues with a bit of reason and dispassion. It’s time to make the case for rational assessment of the risks. I do not bleieve that the public is nearly as willing to jump on any national security whim as they were four years ago. At least I think it’s time to find out. If we don’t, there may be no going back.
And while some are apparently willing to take Bush at his word that he has only used the illegal wiretapping for purely national security reasons, nobody can be sure of that because there is no oversight. Which is the problem. Nobody says that the president shouldn’t be able to monitor Americans who are talking to suspected terrorists. But at least half the country doesn’t see why he couldn’t find a way to do that legally. Certainly, the more than a dozen whisteleblowers who came forward to the NY Times think he could have and that is what raises suspicions about his motives.
I think a good part of his motive is a desire to institutionalize Presidential Infallibility Doctrine and that is bad. People are not aware of this yet, but hearings, if done properly, could serve to educate them a bit.
But there is also ample reason to doubt the president’s word that this has not been used as he says it’s been used. And that’s because it has recently been revealed that the Pentagon has been monitoring protestors and political groups. The president’s most trusted advisor (who is possibly going to be indicted for perjury, I might add) along with a legion of his supporters, say publicly that “liberals” are unpatriotic. The president himself is going all over the country as we speak saying that anyone who questions his motives is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
One can certainly see a scenario in which a president who thinks this way could also think that it is necessary to monitor American dissenters on national security grounds. And under his reading of the constitution, we have no right to inquire or demand that anyone review a decision like that. I continue to believe that most Americans would find that repugnant.
And that leads us to the Abramoff scandal. This issue of corruption and graft in the Republican party is hugely important and it is going to have a life of its own even if we do nothing. It plays directly into the idea that Republican leadership believes that they are above the law. Just like the president.
As for Iran, I have no idea what will happen politically. But I’m willing to bet big money that the president will not get the same benefit of the doubt he got on Iraq. And that is just sad because he blew his credibility on bullshit to the detriment of our country’s national security. Had he maintained the mystique of American power instead of proving to the world how incredibly fucked up we really are, we might have some clout to deal with Iran today. Iran with nukes is not good.
However, the consensus is that they cannot get one for another five years. So, I think we can afford to hold back any patriotic impulse to support this lying sack of shit until we can elect a new congress that can provide some oversight. This administration has damaged American credibility so badly that we are going to be lucky if we can persuade the world to believe us when we say the sun is coming up tomorrow. For the sake of national security I think it’s vitally important that we neuter him as much as possible. Every word he utters now makes this world a more dangerous place to live.
We cannot continue to worry about whether the Republicans are going to call us chickenshits on national security. They are. But I’m betting that the time is ripe to turn that back on them. There is an undercurrent of discontent with this administration and the Republican party in general, particularly on Iraq and public corruption. It’s all a matter of trust and they are losing it. We won’t benefit from that by playing it safe on matters of fundamental principle.
Right now the Democrats have a distinct advantage when it comes to the question of who “will write laws that will help the government find terrorists without violating the rights of the average American.” That is what we build upon. And if we lose in November, then we lose having at least begun to make a real case for progressive principles instead of losing because we tried to convince people that we weren’t quite as bad as they say we are.
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