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What’s up with Delta?

Lots of confusion about what Provincetown outbreak & CDC guidance mean

Mainly: how to think about spread among the vaccinated

And as importantly, what we know and what we don’t

So a short thread

First, the P-town outbreak unusual

Many thousands of people (some unvaccinated) showed up to celebrate July 4

Leading to packed bars, clubs, and lots of mixing of vaccinated and unvaccinated folks in tight quarters

Ideal conditions for COVID spread

And COVID did spread

And there were a lot of infections, including among vaccinated folks

We’ve seen this before — Singapore airport, Yankees clubhouse

Key issue is: did vaccines fail to

1. Prevent infection?
2. Prevent spread?
3. Prevent severe illness?

1. Did vaccines prevent infections?

Based on CDC’s estimate, Pfizer/Moderna prevent about 75-85% of symptomatic infections from Delta

So if no one had been vaccinated, initial case loads would have been about 5 times higher

Did vaccines prevent spread among the infected?

Don’t know

Study examined Ct values of symptomatic vaccinated and unvaccinated

Ct values were comparable

Driving news headlines

But single set of Ct values only loosely correlated with transmissibility

So we don’t know

Did vaccines prevent severe illness?

Only 4 fully vaccinated folks ended up in hospital

None died

Those are very low rates

Consistent with theme that vaccines prevent severe illness

So yeah, they seem like they did

So what do we not know?

Because Ct values are rough surrogate of transmissibility

We don’t know if actual spread among vaccinated people compare to unvaccinated

And big one: we don’t know if vaccinated asymptomatic folks spread

This is key for mask guidance

Bottom line?

P-town outbreak would’ve been a nightmare if no one was vaccinated

Initial case #s would have been 5X

And past experience says such outbreaks fuel larger regional outbreaks

Instead, this one is fizzling out

I suspect because vaccines are working

End

Originally tweeted by Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH (@ashishkjha) on July 31, 2021.

Also, this:

Leaked CDC slides on delta variant got you concerned?

I find the slides insightful & largely reassuring

Bottom line

Delta variant is a problem

Vaccines prevent vast majority of infections, transmission

And nearly all hospitalizations, deaths

So let’s talk about what’s in the slides about the delta variant

First, it is really, really contagious

Like more contagious than Ebola, Spanish Flu and probably chicken pox

Really contagious

Second, it appears to cause more serious disease if you get infected

I’ve been worried this is the case but certainly not sure

The data here is suggestive but not definitive

So reasonable to say delta probably more severe

But the vaccines are working.

Let me repeat, the vaccines are working

80-90% effectiveness against symptomatic infection

90-95% effectiveness against severe disease

That’s what the data from other countries say

But what about data from our country??

Glad you asked

Right now, about 35K vaccinated Americans having breakthrough infections weekly

Sound high?

Actually, probably 300K unvaccinated Americans having infections weekly

And given 50% of Americans are vaccinated

That’s a rough vaccine effectiveness of around 88%

Very rough

Oh — and protection against severe infection well above 90%

So yeah, vaccines are working fine

But what about this whole breakthrough infections and spreadability?

Can vaccinated folks with breakthrough spread?

Yes. And this is the bad news

CDC cites several studies (and I’m aware of even more data) showing vaccinated folks with breakthrough infections have similar viral loads to unvaccinated folks with infections

These are viral loads, not actual evidence of similar transmission

But a reasonable assumption

Then CDC has modeling that says universal masking is critically important

But they assume no other behavior change like some folks avoiding large gatherings, etc.

But you know what their model also says would work great?

Near universal vaccinations

So bottom line?

Yeah, delta variant is bad. Like really bad

Our vaccines are good. Like really good

Breakthrough infections happen

Sometimes they may spread to others

But if enough people get the shot

The pandemic does come to an end

Fin

Originally tweeted by Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH (@ashishkjha) on July 30, 2021.

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