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What we might expect tomorrow

The alternate electors plot revealed

The Washington Post does a deep dive into some of the issues we’ll be hearing about in the hearing tomorrow:

The convening of the electoral college on Dec. 14, 2020, was supposed to mark the end of the wild, extended presidential election that year.

But when the dayarrived, a strange thing happened. In seven swing states won by JoeBiden, when the Democrat’s electors assembled to formally elect him president, Trump supporters showed up, too, ready to declare that their man had actually won.

“The electors are already here — they’ve been checked in,” a state police officer told the group in Michigan, according to a video of the encounter, as he barred the Republicans from the Capitol in a state Biden won by more than 154,000 votes.

In Nevada,a state Biden had won by about 33,600 votes,a photo distributed by the state Republican Party showed Trump supporters squeezing around an undersize picnic table dressed up with a bit of bunting, preparing to sign formal certificates declaring that they were “the duly elected and qualified” electors of their state.

At the time, the gatherings seemed a slapdash, desperate attempt to mimic President Donald Trump’s refusal to concede.

But internal campaign emails and memos revealthat the convening of the fake electors appeared to be a much more concerted strategy, intended to give Vice President Mike Pence a reason to declare the outcome of the election was somehow in doubt on Jan. 6, 2021, when he was to preside over the congressional counting of the electoral college votes.

Oh…

The documents show Trump’s team pushed ahead and urged the electors to meet — then pressured Pence to cite the alternate Trump slates — even as various Trump lawyers acknowledged privately they did not have legal validity and the gatherings had not been in compliance with state laws.

In a public hearing Thursday, the House committee investigating the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 explored the end of the story — the pressure campaign placed on Pence to accept the Trump electors as somehow legitimate.

Committee members have said that Tuesday’s hearing will focus on what came before that, how the elector scheme was organized and the ways Trump pressured officials in swing states to go along with his false claims that Biden had lost.

“We’ll show evidence of the president’s involvement in this scheme,” committee member Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “We’ll also, again, show evidence about what his own lawyers came to think about this scheme. And we’ll show courageous state officials who stood up and said they wouldn’t go along with this plan to either call legislatures back into session or decertify the results for Joe Biden.”

Here comes the coup in search of a legal theory:

The testimony and evidence presented by the committee will build on an argument it made in a federal court in California, where it successfully obtained a judge’s order forcing Trump lawyer John Eastman to turn over records to the committee. In ordering Eastman to produce the documents, Federal District Court Judge David O. Carter wrote that Eastman and Trump’s endeavor amounted to “a coup in search of a legal theory.”

The shifting internal explanations over whether the elector strategy could be considered legitimate was typified in two emails sent in late December by Eastman, a constitutional law professor who was a leading proponent of the idea. In an email sent on Dec. 19 to a California activist with whom Eastman exchanged periodic notes about the election, Eastman wrote that the electors would be “dead on arrival in Congress.” His reasoning — no state legislature had acted to certify them as valid.

Just four days later, however, Eastman wrote to other Trump advisers that he believed Pence could indeed recognize the Trump electors on Jan. 6, apparently despite their lack of state legislative certification. “The fact that we have multiple slates of electors demonstrate the uncertainty of either. That should be enough,” he wrote.

They planned it from the very beginning, obviously fully aware that they had legitimately lost the election:

The emails show some Trump advisers began strategizing just days after the election about how to construct a legal argument for advancing their own electors, even though laws in every state hold that electors are determined by the certified vote of the people.

In particular, they started mulling whether state legislatures, which in a number of key states were controlled by the GOP, could appoint Trump electors even if the certified results showed Biden won.

“John — what would you think of producing a legal memo outlining the constitutional role of state legislators in designating electors?” conservative activist Cleta Mitchell, another lawyer advising Trump’s team, wrote to Eastman two days after the November vote. “A movement is stirring. But needs constitutional support.”

The notion that state legislatures could choose electors in defiance of voters would be a radical one in modern American history. But the documents show Trump strategists quickly began to pursue the theory, especially as lawyers for the campaign and allied groups racked up losses in court cases that they had urged judges to hear expeditiously, before the electors could meet.

Their idea was that state legislatures could step in if the election had been marred by massive fraud or illegality. The Trump campaign pushed the fraud narrative even though the president and other top officials were told over and over, even by allies, that there was no evidence to support it,committee evidence and testimony has shown.

“That’s the most important point to keep in mind here: The whole predicate was nonsense,” said Edward Foley, an Ohio State University law professor who has studied disputed elections.

By Nov. 28, Eastman had penned a seven-page memo entitled “The Constitutional Authority of State Legislatures to Choose Electors.” Internal emails show a copy was sent to White House staffers, with a cover note that read, “For POTUS.” Another copy was circulated to members of the Arizona House of Representatives by a member who added that it would take only “courage to act.”

Already, Trump advisers were considering how they might attempt to use the alternate elector slates to derail Biden’s win at the joint session of Congress in January. Kenneth Chesebro, a Trump legal adviser, argued in an internal memo that Jan. 6 — not Dec. 14 — was the “hard deadline” for winning the election, particularly if Trump’s electors met and declared him the victor in December.

“It may seem odd that the electors pledged to Trump and Pence might meet and cast their votes on December 14 even if, at that juncture, the Trump-Pence ticket is behind in the vote count, and no certificate of election has been issued in favor of Trump and Pence. However, a fair reading of the federal statutes suggests that this is a reasonable course of action,” he wrote.

They did everything they could to get around state laws preventing them from carrying out this fraud. The evidence that they knew it was illegal is overwhelming. […]

Four days later, after Congress confirmed Biden’s win and Trump prepared to leave office, Eastman received an email demanding to know what had happened.

“Tell us in layman’s language, what the heck happened with the dual electors? Please?” read the email, which was from a person whose name is redacted in a version released publicly.

In his response, Eastman admitted the facts: The electors never had legal standing.

“No legislature certified them [because governors refused to call them into session], so they had no authority,” he wrote.

“Alas,” he concluded.

Always keep in mind that they knew from the start that they had lost. They were trying to overturn a legitimate election and they knew it.

This is the case we know the DOJ is looking into. If you want a perfect example of voter fraud, this is it.

Absolutely haunted

“One of our two parties is … following the rules of authoritarianism”

Via Medium. Shirt on the right is sold as official Proud Boys merchandise.

A column from Tuesday presaged retired Judge J. Michael Luttig’s Thursday testimony that “Donald Trump and his allies are a clear and present danger to American democracy.”

Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University who authored “Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present,” spoke with Business Insider:

“The authoritarian playbook has no chapter on failure,” Ben-Ghiat wrote in a November 2020 piece for The Washington Post. “Nothing prepares the ruler to see his propaganda ignored and his charismatic hold weaken until his own people turn against him.”

When, two months later, former President Donald Trump urged his supporters to head over to the US Capitol in a last-ditch effort to overturn the 2020 election, Ben-Ghiat was not altogether surprised. Indeed, she had told people to expect it, arguing: “the rage that will grow in Trump as reality sinks in may make for a rocky transition to Biden’s presidency. Americans would do well to be prepared.”

Had Trump actually arrived outside the Capitol on Jan. 6 as he promised the mob he sent there, things may have been far worse. It is a mistake to see this operation as “amateur.”

One thing that is haunting me, a lot, is if you put the pieces together, which is what these hearings are allowing us to do, is when the temporary Senate president, Chuck Grassley, on January 5th, tweeted that he would be doing the Electoral College count, not Pence, because Pence won’t be with us that day. 

That’s one of these things that got attention and then it kind of went out of the news cycle. Chuck Grassley is third in command. If we think in terms of this being a coup attempt, these are very important details. He was third in command and one of the people above him was Nancy Pelosi. And we just saw, once again, we were reminded that the violent mob that breached the capital was looking for Nancy Pelosi. So if we think of January 6th in the frame of a coup attempt, and coup attempts are violent, this could have had a very different outcome that really resembled something out of a political thriller or a coup attempt that we read about in other countries.

With that in mind, one question the Jan. 6 committee needs to ask is what did Sen. Chuck Grassley know in advance about the coup plot? Why did he send that tweet?

Like Luttig, Ben-Giat sees warning signs she’d rather not see:

 I am absolutely haunted by the fact that people were trying to kill Pence and that Trump said that he deserved to hang. This kind of party, authoritarian discipline, where you follow the leader or you deserve to die, that’s not democracy. That has nothing to do with democracy. So the challenge in the coming time will be that one of our two parties is really exited from democracy and right now it’s following the rules of authoritarianism. I don’t know where this is gonna take us, but it’s not a very good place for a country to be.

If Trump gets prosecuted (successfully), says Ben-Ghiat (and as Luttig emphasized on Thursday), the danger is not over:

When people are prosecuted for corruption or whatever the charge is, and it sticks, that personality cult — it starts to deflate, it starts to shrivel. It’s happened in several countries around the world, only when they are prosecuted. So that’s an argument for doing that.

Now, if that does happen to Trump — DeSantis has already absorbed all the lessons of Trump. He’s clearly readying himself for a national run, whether it’s in 2024 or later. And he’s a very dangerous individual. I’ve written several essays on him already. He’s dangerous because he is equally repressive, but doesn’t have the baggage of Trump. It’s hard to have the baggage of Trump. Trump has a criminal past, in so many areas, that nobody else is really like Trump I would say. All of those things could happen.

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Cowboy for Trump interferes with election results

This is what will happens when all these conspiracy theorists take over the election machinery

Get ready for the crazy:

Otero County is once again facing an election scandal as the Republican-controlled county commission is threatening to throw out over 7,000 votes by refusing to certify the results of the June 7 primary.

“Democratic Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver on Tuesday asked the state Supreme Court to order the three-member Otero County commission to certify June 7 primary election results to ensure voters are not disenfranchised and that political candidates have access to the general election ballot in November,” the Associated Press reported Tuesday. “On Monday, the commission in its role as a county canvassing board voted unanimously against certifying the results of the primary without raising specific concerns about discrepancies, over the objection of the county clerk.”

The county counted 7,123 votes in the state’s gubernatorial primaries.

“Members of the Otero County commission include Cowboys for Trump co-founder Couy Griffin, who ascribes to unsubstantiated claims that Trump won the 2020 election. Griffin was convicted of illegally entering restricted U.S. Capitol grounds — though not the building — amid the riots on Jan. 6, 2021, and is scheduled for sentencing later this month. He acknowledged that the standoff over this primary could delay the outcome of local election races,” the AP reported.

The complaints over the primary stem from GOP conspiracy theories about Dominion voting machines.

Trump won over 60% of the vote in Otero County in 2020, but Griffin conducted a door-to-door “audit” anyway.

“The post-election canvassing process is a key component of how we maintain our high levels of election integrity in New Mexico and the Otero County Commission is flaunting that process by appeasing unfounded conspiracy theories and potentially nullifying the votes of every Otero County voter who participated in the primary,” the secretary of state explained.

The watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a lawsuit in March seeking to have Griffin removed from office.

Griffin was at the Capitol on January 6 and he was convicted on one misdemeanor count. But sure, this guy should be in charge of vote certification.

This wonderful fellow:

The founder of the Cowboys for Trump political support group in a live Facebook video urged people who support performances of the Black national anthem at football games to “go back to Africa” and condemned as “vile scum” people who portray the Confederate flag as racist.

There are a lot more where he came from:

Jim Marchant, one of the organizers of a Trump-inspired “America First” slate of candidates who continue to question the legitimacy of the 2020 election, easily won the Republican nomination for secretary of state in Nevada, a key political battleground.

His victory was called by The Associated Press.

Mr. Marchant, who was also a member of Nevada’s alternate slate of pro-Trump electors seeking to overturn Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory in the state in 2020, has said he would have refused to certify that year’s election had he been in office.

In his push to become Nevada’s top election official, he has proposed decertifying Dominion voting machines and pushing for the hand counting of paper ballots, which experts say would bring lengthy delays and chaos to the voting process.

In the general election, he will face Cisco Aguilar, a Democratic lawyer who once worked for former Senator Harry Reid, in what will be a closely watched race that could hinge on the outcome of Senator Catherine Cortez Masto’s re-election bid. Down-ballot races for offices like secretary of state have often — though not always — closely mirrored results for top-of-the-ticket elections.

A former state assemblyman, Mr. Marchant unsuccessfully ran for Congress in 2020. But rather than concede a race he lost by more than 16,000 votes, or about 5 percentage points, he blamed fraud for his loss, filing a lawsuit that echoed many debunked claims about the 2020 election that Republicans put forward elsewhere.

A red wave will sweep people like this into office. And then Donald Trump will be president again. Don’t think it can’t happen.

How do they explain the 25th Amendment talks?

Can they just brush this under the rug?

There hasn’t been as much talk about this as some of the other stuff from last Thursday’s hearings but I think it’s really important. His cabinet talked about removing him from office. Why? Because he was acting like a lunatic.

This stuff has been reported piecemeal but I doubt that most Americans are aware of it:

When Representative Liz Cheney asserted at the House Jan. 6 hearing on Thursday that Trump administration cabinet members weighed invoking the constitutional process to remove President Donald J. Trump from office after the attack on the Capitol by his supporters, she did not immediately provide details or evidence.

But as the federal government convulsed in the hours and days after the deadly riot, a range of cabinet officials weighed their options, and consulted one another about how to steady the administration and ensure a peaceful transition to a new presidency.

Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state at the time, and Steven Mnuchin, then the Treasury secretary, discussed the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would have required the vice president and the majority of the cabinet to agree that the president could no longer fulfill his duties to begin a complex process of removal from office.

Their discussion was reported by Jonathan Karl of ABC News in his book “Betrayal,” and described to The New York Times by a person briefed on the discussion. Mr. Pompeo has denied the exchange took place, and Mr. Mnuchin has declined to comment.

Betsy DeVos, Mr. Trump’s education secretary, told USA Today this week that she raised with Vice President Mike Pence whether the cabinet should consider the 25th Amendment. But Mr. Pence, she said, “made it very clear that he was not going to go in that direction.”

She decided to resign. So did Matt Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser.

Eugene Scalia, then the labor secretary, discussed with colleagues right after the attack the need to steady the administration, according to three people familiar with the conversations.

Mr. Scalia called an aide to Mr. Pence, they said, to say that he was uncomfortable with Mr. Trump functioning without something of a check on him in that moment, and that there needed to be more involvement from the cabinet. Mr. Pence’s team did not want to make such a move.

Mr. Scalia also had a conversation with Mr. Pompeo, which Mr. Pompeo shared with multiple people, in which Mr. Scalia suggested that someone should talk to Mr. Trump about the need do something to restore confidence in the government and a peaceful transition of power. In Mr. Pompeo’s rendering of that conversation, disputed by others, Mr. Scalia also suggested that someone should talk to Mr. Trump about resigning.

Mr. Pompeo replied sarcastically by asking how Mr. Scalia imagined that conversation with Mr. Trump would go.

Mr. Scalia and Mr. Pompeo, through an aide, declined to comment.

The reference by Ms. Cheney, a Wyoming Republican and the vice chairwoman of the House Jan. 6 committee, to the 25th Amendment being under consideration by cabinet members was one of the most striking assertions in the panel’s two-hour hearing. In the first of six planned public hearings, the committee presented a detailed case against Mr. Trump and the rioters who stormed the Capitol and delayed the congressional certification of the Electoral College results.

The panel has signaled that it plans to use the discussions about the 25th Amendment to show not only the chaos that Mr. Trump set off by helping stoke the riot but how little confidence those around him had in his ability to be president.

“You will hear about members of the Trump cabinet discussing the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment, and replacing the president of the United States,” Ms. Cheney said as she read her opening statement at the hearing. “Multiple members of President Trump’s own cabinet resigned immediately after Jan. 6.”

I wonder how someone like Mike Pompeo will react to this? He’s running and in a normal world there would be an advantage to him for being sane in the face of Trump’s behavior. But like all the rest he is a coward and won’t even think about going out on a limb an risk alienating any members of Trump’s rabid cult. So, I assume he will say it’s all a lie. Still, this is pretty well documented and I assume the committee has testimony under oath. Not that he will care, of course.

The electoral college is the problem

The framers’ biggest mistake

Kate Shaw has an important piece in The Atlantic about one of the major structural problems facing our democracy. The right has figured out that they can manipulate it and it’s not going to be the last time they attempt to do it:

Many Americans understand that the country’s anachronistic system of presidential selection, part constitutional and part statutory, can sometimes produce a winner who does not receive the most votes nationwide. In 2016, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by approximately 3 million, but lost in the Electoral College 304–227. Sixteen years earlier, Al Gore won 500,000 more votes than George W. Bush nationwide, but Bush prevailed in the Electoral College 271–266 after the Supreme Court functionally awarded him Florida’s electoral votes. And even without Trump’s machinations, the 2020 election came dangerously close to producing yet again a president who did not win the national popular vote. Joe Biden won approximately 7 million more votes than Trump, and prevailed in the Electoral College 306–232, but just 44,000 additional Trump votes in Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin could have resulted in a 269–269 tie in the Electoral College. If that had happened, the House, voting by state delegation, would almost certainly have anointed Trump president despite his second popular-vote loss.

But there’s a problem with the Electoral College that’s distinct from the fact that it sometimes selects a winner who does not receive the most votes nationwide, and from the way it creates a political process that overvalues the concerns of voters in an arbitrary subset of states, increasing polarization, dysfunction, and division. (I elaborate on these dynamics in a recent essay in the Michigan Law Review, as does Jesse Wegman in the book that’s the subject of my essay, Let the People Pick the President.) The problem is this: The Electoral College today is dangerously susceptible to manipulation. Indeed, as 2020 showed, the complex process through which a candidate becomes president contains a number of postelection opportunities to contest or undermine the results of an election—and to do so for reasons purportedly having to do with law and legal process.

Consider the Trump campaign’s many lawsuits designed to delay state certification beyond the “safe harbor” deadline created by the Electoral Count Act, after which a state’s slate of electors is no longer deemed conclusive in the event of a dispute. Or Trump supporters’ efforts to disrupt the statutorily required meetings at which each state’s electors actually cast their votes, and the attempts of ersatz “Trump electors” to lay the groundwork for later challenges to official state slates. Trump also personally pressured state election officials to change election results by “finding” enough additional votes that he would be entitled to all of the state’s electoral votes. Trump loyalists in the Department of Justice, and Trump supporters such as Ginni Thomas, sought to push state legislatures to take the radical step of throwing out state returns on the basis of spurious fraud claims and appointing Trump electors themselves. Trump and at least one of his attorneys sought to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to refuse to count electoral votes from a number of states in which Biden received more votes, pointing to the vice president’s central role in “counting” electoral votes in the last stage of the Electoral College process created by the Twelfth Amendment. When that failed, what became the January 6 attack on the Capitol was an effort to disrupt that final event in the Electoral College timeline.

Put plainly, for a candidate determined to win at all costs, the Electoral College was central to a postelection strategy designed to convert loss into victory. Last night’s opening hearings of the January 6 committee made clear that Trump and his advisers were well aware no good-faith legal basis existed to dispute the election’s results. In a nationwide popular vote, a deficit of 7 million votes would have been impossible to challenge using ostensibly lawful means; the fact of the Electoral College meant that flipping a few close states, or coercing the vice president into throwing out those states’ votes,  would have been enough to change the election’s outcome.

It also seems likely that the very existence of the Electoral College made the public more susceptible to Trump’s efforts to subvert democracy—or at least lulled the public for a time into believing there was nothing wildly wrong with a process in which a defeated candidate exploited pressure points in an attempt to cling to power. Americans are, after all, acclimated to an undemocratic system of presidential selection; perhaps that primed the public to respond in muted ways to Trump’s blatantly antidemocratic moves.

Commonplace political rhetoric about presidential elections suggests as much, framing elections more as complex logic games than crucial acts of self-governance. We discuss “paths to 270”; we contemplate the prospect of things like “running up the score in Broward County.”

It is tempting to dismiss the events of January 6 as largely about Donald Trump rather than our system more broadly. And certainly, any electoral system can be targeted by an autocrat determined to hang on to power. But the Electoral College both provided numerous points of entry and brought the country dangerously close to an actual successful coup.

A genuine bipartisan legislative effort is now under way to reform some of the aspects of the Electoral Count Act that Trump sought to exploit in 2020, as well as to address a number of other vulnerabilities of our electoral system. But at the moment, insufficient attention is being paid to the Electoral College itself. One of the goals of these hearings should be to communicate to the public just how dangerous an institution the Electoral College is—and perhaps to galvanize a serious effort to change it.

Jamelle Bouie added some astute comments on twitter:

this is a terrific piece and i want to make one quick observation

it’s not just that the multi-stage nature of the electoral college means that it can be manipulated and subverted, but that the very possibility of winning the election without winning the vote is an inducement to try to subvert the electoral college.

put a little differently, i don’t think it is a coincidence that the first president to try this in earnest was also the second president in two decades to win the white house without winning the popular vote.

the extent to which winning without winning becomes a normal part of american presidential politics can’t help but influence bad actors, who might look at a narrow defeat and say, “there’s no reason i can’t manipulate the rules to make that go the other way”

as it stands, the electoral college is basically incentivizing the GOP to reject the idea, entirely, that you should even try to win the most votes, or that winning the most votes has any connection to political legitimacy. “we’re a republic, not a democracy,” after all. 5/5

Originally tweeted by b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) on June 10, 2022.

Years ago I was at a meeting of some Dem big shots who were thinking of hiring me for a job. (The funding fell apart — thank God.) They asked me what I thought was the biggest structural problem in our system and what I would change if I had the chance. I said, the Electoral College and they all scoffed. “Oh please, it’s just pro-forma.” This was after 2000.

Yeah. How’s that working out for us?

No, we haven’t see this movie before @spockosbrain

Thread Theorist, Mauvais Homme over at Eschaton pointed out that David Brooks at the New York Times gave his prediction: The January 6 committee has already blown it

Mauvais said, “He’s the kind of guy who writes movie reviews before he has seen the movie.”

So I wrote how David Brooks would review the Godfather before he saw the movie, before I read his column.

If David Brooks’ reviewed 1972’s The Godfather the month before it came out:

Don’t bother watching The Godfather, it will be a waste of time.

David Brooks, Unseen movie reviewer

“The Godfather was a great book. But Mario Puzo has never written a screenplay. It’s highly unlikely he’ll be able to turn his 448 pages of prose into a filmable script.

And whose genius idea was it to hire the man who helmed the cloying 1969 musical Finian’s Rainbow to direct this? Francis Ford Coppola is clearly the wrong man for this type of movie.

The casting is horrible. Marlon Brando is way past his prime. It has been 18 years since On The Waterfront. Maybe musical film director Coppola picked him because of his singing role in Guys and Dolls! (Speaking of bad music, he hired his own father to score it! He’s no Henry Mancini, I predict the soundtrack will be an ear bleeding, money losing disaster.)

Sadly the whole cast is filled by unknown TV actors, wannabes and has beens. Newcomer Al Pacino played a drug addict in Panic in Needle Park last year, but he just doesn’t have the range to play a character that grows and changes.

Don’t waste your time, save your $5.00 for something better. Mark my words, this will be an epic flop.” – David Brooks, New York Times unseen movie critic

The Show’s Not Over Until…

I’ve been watching the MSNBC shows and reading pieces on what they think the hearings will bring.

There are the theater questions: “Will they create a compelling narrative? How will it play on TV? What role does social media play?”

Political questions: “How will this impact democrats success in the midterms? Who will this sway? What will the Trump base think?”

Legal questions: “What will the DOJ do?” I know from watching Glenn, Barbara, Jill, Joyce and Eli that a criminal conviction needs to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt. The DOJ needs to do this right and it takes time. I also know that the DOJ can get indictments if probable cause exists to support the charges.

I have since read his column. He’s not totally full of sh*t. Maybe 98% full. It’s based on what he thinks will happen. He thinks it will be a failure because the hearings won’t do what HE thinks they should do.

So that part of my fake review of his pre-review of The Godfather is correct, he’s basing it on what people have done in the past. As Digby wrote earlier today, The savvy media will call all this, “Old news.” The politico’s are doing the “You can’t reach Trump’s audience to change their minds” bit.

I’m tired of the “Trump’s base doesn’t care” stories. We, the majority of Americans, care. Also, the LAW cares.

Brooks thinks that people won’t care about the details about who texted Meadows about what. Well, when those people were talking about and texting their plan to obstruct the count are senators & congress people who are STILL SERVING, that detail MATTERS! Those people need to be removed from office.

I’ve heard multiple people ask former prosecutor Glenn Kirschner, “When will Garland act? What can we do to pressure him to act?” I hear him and others talk about how the prosecutors need to follow the law and be politically independent. I hear, “We don’t want the DOJ to be politicized. They shouldn’t look like they are going after Biden’s political enemies. “
(My response is. “I want them to go after lawbreakers, period. Just because they happen to be Republicans and politicians isn’t the point.”

So I asked him, “What DOES get prosecutors to act?” He said that when they get new evidence, often from journalists and congressional committees, they have to investigate.

Me for 18 months: It takes time & patience to build a case that will lead to a conviction. Me after tonight’s revelations: F*CK%NG SH*T DOJ! INDICT! INDICT! INDICT!


As my friend Professor Derbes said, “I would love five or ten of these monsters to be ejected from Congress.” Sure Trump’s base won’t like it, but I DON’T care. I’m not going to be in a diner in Ohio anytime soon to give my opinion to the New York Times, so I’ll write it here.

We, the majority of Americans, care. We care about our democracy. We care that TFG attempted to stop the certification of the fair election and invalidate our votes. We want changes made so this doesn’t happen again. AND we want the people who did this to be held accountable. Tell everyone what you want to happen.

Say what you are feeling to everyone. Your friends, enemies, social media, the press, your congress people. Don’t assume you are preaching to the choir. Don’t fall into learned helplessness. “Nothing will happen.”

I’m pretty good at predictions. But I’ve learned that my correct predictions don’t matter. My actions do. When you see these horrible things tonight say something.

I’m not a big phone caller, but I might make some calls tonight to my congresspeople. Their answer machines take calls after hours.

“It’s ultimately on us to make this the big deal it so obviously is.”

B1 Bummer








A new development in the coup attempt

A judge unseals more evidence a crime was committed

We won’t see anything about this tomorrow night. But I would imagine it will play a part in future hearings:

A federal judge on Tuesday ordered conservative attorney John Eastman, who helped craft former President Donald Trump’s strategy to overturn the election, to hand over more than 150 emails, including one that the judge said contains evidence of a likely crime.

U.S. District Court Judge David Carter ordered Eastman to turn over a batch of 159 documents sought by the Jan. 6 committee that were not protected by attorney-client privilege in a court ruling first reported by Politico.

Carter said one of the documents is a December 22, 2020 email exchange in which an unidentified attorney urged Trump’s lawyers not to involve the courts in their bid to block the results of the election during the Jan. 6 session of Congress.

“Because the attorney concluded that a negative court ruling would ‘tank the January 6 strategy,’ he encouraged the legal team to avoid the courts,” Carter wrote.

The judge noted that the email contains evidence of a crime and is not covered by attorney-client privilege.

“This email cemented the direction of the January 6 plan,” he wrote. “The Trump legal team chose not to seek recourse in court — instead, they forged ahead with a political campaign to disrupt the electoral count. Lawyers are free not to bring cases; they are not free to evade judicial review to overturn a democratic election. Accordingly, this portion of the email is subject to the crime-fraud exception and must be disclosed.”

Carter also ordered Eastman to turn over 10 documents about meetings he had with an unidentified pro-Trump group whose “high-profile” leader met with Eastman to discuss Jan. 6 strategies.

The documents include a meeting agenda with a section called “GROUND GAME” that included an unidentified current member of Congress planning to “challenge the electors in the House of Representatives.”

“The Select Committee has a substantial interest in these three meetings because the presentations furthered a critical objective of the January 6 plan: to have contested states certify alternate slates of electors for President Trump,” Carter wrote. “Dr. Eastman’s actions in these few weeks indicate that his and President Trump’s pressure campaign to stop the electoral count did not end with Vice President Pence — it targeted every tier of federal and state elected officials. Convincing state legislatures to certify competing electors was essential to stop the count and ensure President Trump’s reelection.”

Some of the documents include communications directly from Trump that Carter determined were not covered by attorney-client privilege. One document was a photo with a handwritten note in which Trump wrote about the size of his rallies. Two others asked Eastman for advice about public statements related to their failed plot to send slates of fake electors to Congress.

Eastman was ordered to turn over the documents by Wednesday, one day before the committee begins to hold public hearings.

Eastman in January sued to shield emails from his Chapman University account but Carter repeatedly rejected his arguments, insisting that the committee’s work was necessary to protect democracy. Carter in March ordered Eastman to turn over another 101 emails, writing that the evidence shows that it is “more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021,” describing Eastman’s strategy as a “coup in search of a legal theory.”

Still, Carter on Tuesday ruled that more than 400 emails that Eastman sought to shield were protected by attorney-client privilege.

“Review of the 409 protected documents shows that none are ‘pivotal’ to the Select Committee’s investigation,” Carter wrote. “The majority of the documents include opinions and discussions about trial strategy in ongoing or anticipated lawsuits.”

Eastman began advising Trump shortly after his election loss and cooked up a strategy in which states won by President Joe Biden would certify alternate slates of pro-Trump electors which then-Vice President Mike Pence could then unilaterally choose to count during the certification of Electoral College votes. But state legislatures rebuffed the attempts and Pence refused to participate. Trump and Eastman continued to pressure Pence until Trump on Jan. 6 directed a mob of supporters to march on the Capitol, where they hunted Pence and other lawmakers in a failed bid to stop the certification. Some Trump supporters erected a gallows outside the Capitol while others chanted “hang Mike Pence.”

One day before the Capitol riot, Pence’s top aide Marc Short called the head of the vice president’s Secret Service detail to issue a warning about Trump’s pressure campaign.

“The president was going to turn publicly against the vice president,” Short told him, according to The New York Times, “and there could be a security risk to Mr. Pence because of it.”

I have little expectation that anyone will be held criminally liable for the coup attempt (as opposed to the Insurrection where hundreds have been indicted.) Maybe I’m wrong about that but I think the DOJ mave have decided not to prosecute these crimes. They may think it’s too political or would foment violence or something else. Nonetheless, it’s pretty clear that this judge has concluded that the former president and his men committed a crime when they tried to overturn the election. Of course they did.

Dems, hire professsionals to tell the story

Enrique Tarrio, Chairman of the Proud Boys, and Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, attend a meeting in a garage in Washington, U.S. in a still image taken from video January 5, 2021, the day before the January 6 riot. Saboteur Media/Handout via REUTERS. NIck Quested works with Saboteur Media.

This is no time for Democrats to entrust the future of the republic to some Capitol Hill fraternity brother. Democrats, if you care about preserving democracy, hire professionals to manage your Jan. 6 presentation and media presence. From outside the Beltway. And pay them.

The Jan.6 committee needs to tell a compelling story, not simply regurgitate dry facts.

It seems they’ve already looked into it. Vanity Fair:

The January 6 committee is apparently not taking any chances with their media strategy on Thursday, when the first in a series of public hearings will air in prime time. Veteran network executive James Goldston, the former president of ABC News, “has joined the committee as an unannounced adviser,” Axios reported Monday. The committee tapped Goldston, whose storytelling expertise breathed life into programs such as Nightline, to shape the cache of material that the committee has amassed over the past year, which reportedly includes more than 140,000 documents and disclosures from over 1,000 depositions and interviews. Thursday’s prime-time hearing, which Goldston is producing, is said to feature both live witnesses and pre-produced video—including clips from some depositions. Goldston “plans to make it raw enough so that skeptical journalists will find the material fresh, and chew over the disclosures in future coverage,” while also getting the attention “of Americans who haven’t followed the ins and outs of the Capitol riot probe,” Axios’s Mike Allen reports.

ABC adds some background:

Tapping Goldston, who was president of ABC News from 2014 to 2021, is an effort to bring storytelling drama to the high stakes story of the attack on the Capitol, which aimed to subvert the certification of the election of President Joe Biden following the November plebiscite. The hearings will look to attract and inform both journalists and citizens who have closely followed the Capitol riot probe as well as viewers who may not be aware of the specifics of the 11-month investigation.

[…]

Goldston was named president of ABC News in 2014 after spending a decade producing prime-time specials and investigative reports for the network. He departed in 2021 after 17 years, saying it was “time for a change” following the election cycle. Since leaving ABC in 2021, Goldston has started his own production company with Kapital Entertainment.

David Roberts of Vox cautions that facts alone won’t change minds. Stories can.

Roberts continues:

If Dems want the public to draw from the committee report a particular narrative, a particular set of meanings, a particular set of responses/reforms, they have to SAY SO, again & again, in every medium, in one voice. They must tell the story, not just the facts.

In a word, they must *politicize* the hearings — they must make it clear that this is a political issue, a political fight over basic questions of law & democracy, to be addressed through democratic politics. Letting the right’s (inevitable) accusations of politicization …

… cow them into some pretense of “just the facts” objectivity, into relying on the public to pull the story out of the facts on its own, would mean they lose again & this moment will disperse & fade just like the impeachment(s).

No minds will be changed on the right. They have their narrative. Dems need to create a narrative that can capture swingy tuned-out voters. That requires some drama & moral clarity, but even more, it requires repetition, repetition, repetition.

“Enrique Tarrio, the former chairman of the Proud Boys, and four other members of the far-right group were indicted on Monday for seditious conspiracy,” reports the New York Times. It seems Democrats will begin their story of intrigue with testimony from a documentary filmmaker and the first Capitol Police office injured in the Jan. 6 riot:

… Nick Quested, a British documentarian who was filming the group with its permission during the riot, and from Caroline Edwards, a Capitol Police officer who was injured, according to videotape of the incident, by a rioter who had been in a conversation moments earlier with one of the Proud Boys indicted on the sedition charge.

The men had already been indicted for attempting to obstruct certification of the 2020 presidential election.

Quested was filming the Proud Boys with their permission before and on Jan. 6, including a planning meeting held in with Stewart Rhodes*, the leader and founder of the Oath Keepers militia, in underground garage the night before.

Ms. Edwards, a well-respected Capitol Police officer, is believed to be the first officer injured in the attack, and suffered a concussion during the assault.

Other officers around the building recall hearing Officer Edwards on the radio calling for help — one of the first signs that day that the mob violence was beginning to overwhelm the police. Months after the attack, Officer Edwards continued to have fainting spells believed to be connected to her injuries.

Now, let’s hope the veteran of Nightline can make their story must-see TV. A lot is riding on bringing the guilty to justice.

*Rhodes’ trial for seditious conspiracy is scheduled for late September.

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Pence’s chief of staff was worried that Trump was a danger … to him

He alerted the secret service

I guess we know why Pence didn’t want to get in the car with anyone but his own secret service detail on January 6th now:

The day before a mob of President Donald J. Trump’s supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence’s chief of staff called Mr. Pence’s lead Secret Service agent to his West Wing office.

The chief of staff, Marc Short, had a message for the agent, Tim Giebels: The president was going to turn publicly against the vice president, and there could be a security risk to Mr. Pence because of it.

The stark warning — the only time Mr. Short flagged a security concern during his tenure as Mr. Pence’s top aide — was uncovered recently during research by this reporter for an upcoming book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America,” to be published in October.

Mr. Short did not know what form such a security risk might take, according to people familiar with the events. But after days of intensifying pressure from Mr. Trump on Mr. Pence to take the extraordinary step of intervening in the certification of the Electoral College count to forestall Mr. Trump’s defeat, Mr. Short seemed to have good reason for concern. The vice president’s refusal to go along was exploding into an open and bitter breach between the two men at a time when the president was stoking the fury of his supporters who were streaming into Washington.

Mr. Short’s previously unreported warning reflected the remarkable tension in the West Wing as Mr. Trump and a band of allies, with the clock running out, searched desperately for a means of overturning the election. Mr. Trump grew agitated as his options closed, and it became clear that he was failing in his last-ditch effort to muscle his previously compliant vice president into unilaterally rejecting the voting outcomes in key states.

The warning also shows the concern at the highest levels of the government about the danger that Mr. Trump’s anticipated actions and words might lead to violence on Jan. 6.

It is unclear what, if anything, Mr. Giebels did with the message. But as Mr. Trump attacked his second in command — and democratic norms — in an effort to cling to power, it would prove prophetic.

A day after Mr. Short’s warning, more than 2,000 people — some chanting “Hang Mike Pence” — stormed the Capitol as the vice president was overseeing the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory. Outside, angry Trump supporters had erected a mock gallows. After Mr. Pence was hustled to safety, Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, is reported to have told colleagues that Mr. Trump said that perhaps Mr. Pence should have been hanged.

Mr. Short was asked about the conversation with Mr. Giebels during an interview with the House committee investigating the Capitol riot, a person familiar with his appearance said.

The fact that Pence hasn’t completely turned on Trump after all that perfectly illustrates what a cowardly, empty suit he is. They knew that Trump would unleash his rabid followers and he did. And yet Pence can barely bring himself to say anything about it. What a loser.

Must-see TV

He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

House investigators will debut their first public hearing on the Jan. 6 insurrection in prime time on Thursday, June 9 at 8 p.m. Eastern. Stand by for what the Party of Trump and their liege lord will do to distract public attention (NBC News):

“The committee will present previously unseen material documenting January 6th, receive witness testimony, preview additional hearings, and provide the American people a summary of its findings about the coordinated, multi-step effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and prevent the transfer of power,” the panel said.

There will be visuals, surely. And a guest star, TBA. This is TV.

Chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) and his committee will be competing for eyeballs with infotainment.

CNN reported Thursday on a few among the flood of text messages received by then-chief of staff Mark Meadows as Donald Trump’s MAGA mob battled police defending the Capitol:

“He’s got to condem (sic) this shit. Asap,” Donald Trump Jr. texted at 2:53 p.m.

“POTUS needs to calm this shit down,” GOP Rep. Jeff Duncan of South Carolina wrote at 3:04 p.m.

“TELL THEM TO GO HOME !!!” former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus messaged at 3:09 p.m.

These urgent texts and more poured in while Donald J. Trump watched the battle on TV at the White House and did nothing. Rioters attacked the Capitol just after 1 p.m. Trump delayed issuing a statement calling off his supporters until 4:17 p.m. By then, several people were dead or dying.

One of the key questions the January 6 House committee is expected to raise in its June hearings is why Trump failed to publicly condemn the attack for hours, and whether that failure is proof of “dereliction of duty” and evidence that Trump tried to obstruct Congress’ certification of the election.

The Meadows texts show that even those closest to the former President believed he had the power to stop the violence in real time.

[…]

Seventeen months later, CNN spoke to more than a dozen people who had texted Meadows that day, including former White House officials, Republican members of Congress and political veterans. Without exception, each said they stood by their texts and that they believed Trump had the power and responsibility to try to stop the attack immediately.

Most who spoke with CNN would do so only anonymously.

Some said it was because of their jobs. Some said they were afraid Trump would be reelected. One said they just didn’t want to go through “the misery of being targeted by Trump supporters.”

The committee hopes to tell the Jan. 6 story, Axios reports, “in such a way that the American people understand the gravity of what happened — and the role former President Trump and his associates played in ginning up the mob that tried to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power.”

They will try. They’d best have hired media advisers.

Former congressman Denver Riggleman (R-Va.) told CNN’s Anderson Cooper this week he used his intelligence background and an analysis team he assembled to help the committee match anonymous phone numbers in collected texts to names and locations. The language from sitting and former members of Congress and connected Trump donors was so “horrific” and disconnected from reality that it scared him. It was “spiritual warfare coupled with QAnon-type of religiosity and types of conspircay theories” coming from people in high positions of power.

The committee’s goal will be to lay out a coherent narrative from incoherent ravings.

I’m not confident they can reach a lot of Americans living on Earth II.

Brynn Tannehill, a technical analyst with RAND tweeted this week:

I have a friend, whose husband is a retired Marine special forces guy. He spent better part of a year at the siege of Khe Sanh. After he retired, he was a police officer (SWAT) and medical first responder. He’s vaguely conservative on some things, but not nuts. 1/n

In his retirement, he still teaches police, SWAT teams, and first responders about dealing with ugly mass casualty events, including Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear, and High Yield Explosives. He’s still part of the state volunteer emergency services. 2/n

This past week, he got asked to do a day of training for emergency medical services providers in a different county. Think even redder and more Trumpy than his already fairly conservative home town in a red state. 3/n

Part of his training (the briefing with PowerPoint) was discussing where mass casualty attacks come from, who does them, their tactics technics and procedures, and what sorts of injuries their mass casualty events produce. Basically, here’s what to expect. 4/n

For anyone who’s military, this should sound pretty boring and normal: it’s the intel briefing that everyone gets when discussing CONOPS.

Except, this crowd of “students” was having none of it.

Why? 5/n

Because this decorated combat vet who’s pro-police in in most cases had the temerity to show them the FBI statistics on the sources of domestic terrorism and mass casualty events: which is roughly 75% right wing, 18% religious, 4% left wing, and the rest other or N/A. 6/n

Under right wing he included things like neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and the like.

The audience refused to believe.

“No! It’s Antifa!”

He pulled up the spreadsheets and stats on the FBI website.

They still wouldn’t believe him, even with FBI data collected un Trump. 7/n

Best of luck, Bennie. You’re going to need it.

(h/t JH)

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