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Five years ago today

He had been very pleased that they called him “your excellency” which he insists they never called any other president because they respected him so much you’ve never seen anything like it.

I still remember the shock at learning that Trump had secretly invited the leaders of the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11. It boggled the mind that he could even contemplate such a thing, although he’d been inviting Kim Jong Un and Rodrigo Duterte to the White House for years so why not? But to imagine the Taliban at Camp David on 9/11 was beyond imagination even for him.

It turned out that there had been ongoing peace talks that were designed to lead to the American withdrawal but Trump wanted the credit for “making the deal” so he came up with the Camp David proposition. In the end all it did was help destabilize the already fragile Afghan government (a major factor in the chaotic withdrawal in 2021) and Trump ended up releasing 5,000 Taliban fighters and agreeing to a timetable for US withdrawal with only a promise that the Taliban would be good boys in the future.

One gaping problem, say scholars (including some from the Trump administration): The peace agreement came with no enforcement mechanism for the Taliban to keep its word.

The Taliban basically had to sign a pledge saying it wouldn’t harbor terrorists. Nowhere did the Taliban have to — nor did it choose to — denounce al-Qaeda, the terrorist group that launched the 9/11 attacks from Afghanistan, Miller writes. […]

To a number of those who were paying attention, the whole deal felt like a naked attempt to just get out of Afghanistan. It was a campaign promise of Trump’s to be the president who finally ended America’s longest war. It would be something no other president had been able to accomplish.

Before the peace talks really got going, Trump had already started withdrawing thousands of troops, and he fired his defense secretary, Esper, after he wrote a memo disagreeing. (Esper later said that Trump’s withdrawing too many troops too soon contributed to what we see now in Afghanistan.)

In the end, Trump got the best of both worlds as usual. He says he made the deal (which Biden adhered to) but Biden botched by not being “tough” and keeping troops in the country, which Trump had precipitously withdrawn.

It was always going to be a mess. But it was Biden who finally had the guts to follow through. But regardless of his desire to end that war, you can bet he never would have contemplated bringing the Taliban to Camp David on 9/11 so he could “make a deal” with them. Only Trump would consider something so stupid.

This remarkable historic moment was buried on page A4 in the Washington Post. pic.twitter.com/mMflA7EEWn

— Dan Froomkin (PressWatchers.org) (@froomkin) September 7, 2024

No big deal. Just the VP of the only two term GOP presidency in the last 40 years just endorsed the Democrat for president. Ho hum. Business as usual.

I know it’s a tired trope but I want you to imagine what they would have done if Al Gore had come out in favor of Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton?

I wonder if they’d put it on page one if George W. and Mitt Romney did the same? Probably not.

So he’s a little rapey and a lot stupid but his tariff policy is just awesome

How could anyone take this person seriously again? (You know the Trump cult won’t…) She has shown herself to be a person without any kind of moral center.

Nikki Haley, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said she doesn’t always agree with former President Donald Trump’s communications, style or approach, but she backs his policies. She was discussing Trump’s extended remarks Friday criticizing writer E. Jean Carroll and other women who have accused him of sexual misconduct or sexual assault. 

In an interview with CBS News’ “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” that will air Sunday, Haley was asked by Brennan about Trump’s comments, which followed his brief appearance in a federal appeals court. The former president was in court to try to overturn a $5 million judgment finding him liable for sexually abusing and defaming Carroll. Brennan asked Haley if airing grievances about women is the best use of Trump’s time, and what kind of message it sends to women voters. 

“Well, I think the focus for me is on policy,” Haley replied, as Brennan noted that Trump is the Republican presidential nominee.  “And I’ve always said, ‘look, if I thought Biden or Trump were great candidates, I wouldn’t have run for president,'” Haley said. “I ran because I thought I could do a better job.” Brennan followed up, “You don’t think he’s a good candidate?”

“I think he is the Republican nominee,” Haley replied. “And I think putting him against Kamala Harris, who is the Democrat nominee — for me, it’s not a question. Now, do I agree with his style, do I agree with his approach, do I agree with his communications? No.”But on policy, Haley said, she said she agrees with Trump on a lot. “These are the candidates we have been given,” Haley said. 

Haley also told Brennan she hasn’t been asked to campaign for Trump and isn’t advising him or his campaign, but she remains “on standby.” 

Trump should put her out there. Nothing would prove his big dick dominance than to have this woman bowing and scraping before him after having called her every name in the book including “birdbrain.” She can’t wait to do it.

The “Bro” Strategy

Maggie Haberman with a good write up of Trump’s demented “press conference” yesterday. This first line is exactly how it should be framed:

If any voters had forgotten that Donald J. Trump was accused by multiple women of sexual misconduct, he spent roughly 45 minutes reminding them on Friday, eight weeks before Election Day.

At a lectern in the lobby of Trump Tower, Mr. Trump, flanked by seven of his lawyers, laid out years-old allegations from the women in detail as he denied that they were telling the truth. He had just attended a federal appeals court hearing related to a civil case in which he was found liable of sexually abusing and defaming a New York writer, E. Jean Carroll, decades earlier. Mr. Trump was not required to attend the hearing, but decided he wanted to.

When the hearing was over, he went to his eponymous building for what the Republican presidential nominee’s campaign called a “press conference.” But he ended it without taking questions, and the session — during which Mr. Trump criticized his rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, for avoiding reporters — was more like a venting exercise over his frustrations about his legal travails.

Mr. Trump — who is badly trailing with women voters in polling — used the time Friday to insult the lawyers working for him, saying he was “disappointed” in them before adding that they’re “talented,” as they stood, mute, in a row next to him. He declared that Ms. Carroll’s claim that a dress she owned may have had Mr. Trump’s DNA on it was inspired by Monica Lewinsky, referring to the White House intern whose life was forever changed after she had a sexual relationship with former President Bill Clinton. He couldn’t remember one of the accuser’s names, and spent time at the lectern searching for it through the rectangular note cards he held.

Of another accuser, Jessica Leeds, who alleged an assault on an airplane, he said, “She said I was making out with her. And then, after 15 minutes — and she changed her story a couple times, maybe it was quicker — then I grabbed her at a certain part and that’s when she had enough.” He added, “Think of the impracticality of this: I’m famous, I’m in a plane, people are coming into the plane. And I’m looking at a woman, and I grab her and I start kissing her and making out with her. What are the chances of that happening?”

And, for emphasis, he suggested that one of the accusers wasn’t attractive enough for him to have made a move on. “Frankly — I know you’re going to say it’s a terrible thing to say — but it couldn’t have happened, it didn’t happen, and she would not have been the chosen one,” he said.

Between Trump the groper/rapist and Vance the misogynist incel who wants women barefoot and pregnant, they have quite a team. I think it’s great that Trump is out there reminding everyone of all the women who have credibly accused him of assault.

As Edith Olmsted wrote in the New Republic, he actually went into great detail for some reason. As if he really wanted to remind everyone of exactly what had been alleged:

“There were two witnesses. One is a woman who followed me for years,” Trump said, talking about Jessica Leeds, who told jurors at Carroll’s civil trial that Trump had groped her when they sat next to each other on a plane to New York City in the late 1970s.  “There was no conversation. It was like out of the blue. It was like a tussle,” Leeds claimed at the time. 

Trump’s characterization of the interaction was quite a bit different: “She said in 1979 I was in an airplane with her, commercial flight, and … we became very intimate,” said the former president.

As he told the story, Trump interrupted himself to say, “I was famous then too. I’ve been famous for a long time,” apropos of nothing. Later Trump tried to return to this point, dismissing the claims, saying, “It’s very funny, when you’re rich and famous, you get lot of people come up with a lot of stories.” Combined, Trump’s remarks sounded eerily similar to his infamous Access Hollywood tape, where he claimed that “when you’re a star they let you” grab their genitals.

Throughout his explanation of the supposedly “totally made-up story,” Trump continued to insist that he didn’t know when exactly their interaction had taken place, noting that this likely happened “a long time ago,” in 1979. “I believe I had some pretty big success then, and I was being talked about a lot. Maybe The Art of the Deal was out, you know, sometime after that, I’m not sure. But I was well known,” Trump said. As it happens, The Art of the Deal came out almost 10 years later, in 1987. In attempting to make light of the serious allegation, Trump boasted about his popularity and seemed to reveal his own faulty memory. 

“And passengers are coming into the plane, and she said I was making out with her, and then, after 15 minutes—and then she changed her story a couple of times, maybe it was quicker—that I grabbed her at a certain part, and that was when she had enough,” Trump said. 

“So think of the impracticality of this,” Trump urged. Later, he implied that her story made no sense because “back in those days” there was an arm rest between passengers on airplanes.  “What are the chances of that happening? What are the chances?” Trump questioned. “And, frankly, I know you’re going to think it’s a terrible thing to say, but it couldn’t have happened. It didn’t happen. And, she would not have been the chosen one. She would not have been the chosen one.”

What kind of a presidential candidate moron would go into such detail in a press conference two months before the election?

The question isn’t why so many women loathe them and refuse to vote for them. The question is why so many don’t. What kind of self-respecting woman thinks that performance — or Vance’s “childless cat ladies are destroying the world” — is admirable? What kind of woman wants her daughter growing up in a world full of pigs like that?

On the other hand, we know that they are making a big play for the “bros” so this would make some sense. He may figure those guys relate to a bunch of bitches accusing them of acting like animals when all they want is what they’re entitled to. It’s not that much different than having an MMA fighter/wife beater introduce him at the RNC.

Twenty-one seconds of pure madness at Moms for Liberty. I can’t believe this thing is still out there walking the streets.
“Childs!” pic.twitter.com/YrT742hzq1

— Melissa Stop Proj 2025🌴🥥 🟦🟩🟨🟧🟪 (@Meltart) September 1, 2024

This really should have been part of the Trump appearance story in the mainstream media. But then, they didn’t mention that he said kids were getting gender reassignent surgery in the nurse’s office in public school so why say anything bout this?

Scandal, school board election failures, and a disastrous 60 Minutes interview appear to have diminished Moms for Liberty’s once powerful influence, and last weekend’s summit provided plenty of additional evidence that the group is currently flailing. 

Nearly every Republican presidential hopeful and a number of right-wing giants spoke at Moms for Liberty’s lively summit last year. But this year’s gathering was comparatively small, with far fewer panels and a weaker speaker lineup. In fact, Glenn Beck and D-list comedian Rob Schneider were advertised as the star headliners until the exceptionally late addition of former President Donald Trump just days before the event. 

This is the second year that my colleague Madeline Peltz and I attended Moms for Liberty’s summit. It was immediately apparent to us that the small crowd had seemingly been reduced to largely die-hard members who, unlike many, remained loyal to Moms for Liberty through its year of scandal and failure. Co-founder Tina Descovich acknowledged that the organization was losing some support while presenting an award, saying, “You have been a friend to Moms for Liberty when some have stepped away.”

Awwww. Boo hoo. These awful women are responsible for the emotional torture of countless kids and their families and they should be shunned.

You love to see it.

Is Trump Fever breaking?

Politico on Friday announced that the Harris-Walz campaign has hired my friend Matt Hildreth of progressive Rural Organizing dot org as the campaign’s National Rural Outreach Director. Hildreth’s group announced it formally in a tweet shortly thereafter.

Politico:

Hiring Hildreth, whose grassroots organization is already knocking doors for Harris and Democratic candidates across the country this fall, signals the campaign is looking to seriously expand a resource-intensive ground game to reach rural voters who could swing the election.

The Harris-Walz team doesn’t expect the ticket to flip many rural counties. But some of Harris’ top advisers have argued that simply losing by slightly fewer percentage points in these areas could help carry her and down-ballot Democrats to victory. In recent memos, the campaign has argued “the key to decreasing margins in rural areas is to show up and compete everywhere — which is exactly what we’re doing across the country.”

Exactly right. That’s how Democrat Heath Shuler ousted eight-term, NC-11 Republican Rep. Charles Taylor in 2006. It’s easier and more economically efficient for statewide Democratic candidates to perform voter outreach where they can find “their” voters in bulk (in the cities).

The flaw in that strategy is in states (and districts) where red-county voters outnumber and outvote Democrat-leaning voters in urban, blue islands. Under the right conditions, it is possible for Democrats to eke out U.S. Senate wins in Georgia where half the voting population lives in Atlanta metro. But a third or so of Georgia’s rural counties had no functional Democratic committees the last time I looked. It’s hard to win where you don’t show up to play. Shortchanging rural counties can leave Democrats winning statewide races but losing local contests and facing Republican-dominated state legislatures.

Local organizers also note that the party has a solid opportunity to gain support in some rural communities, especially in pockets of Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona with younger voters and voters of color. The Biden-Harris administration and Democrats have poured billions in federal investments into rural communities, with Biden just this week touting new funding in a largely rural swing district in southwest Wisconsin.

At the end of her Friday interview with N.C. Democrats’ state chair Anderson Clayton, CNN’s Dana Bash invited her back to discuss efforts to bridge the rural-urban divide in North Carolina. One of Hildreth’s people e-introduced Clayton to me over three years ago, before she became the youngest state chair in the country and a media star. Clayton hails from rural Person County and has vowed her party will no longer neglect Democrats’ country cousins.

So for rural readers wherever you are who need a little bucking up, veteran North Carolina Democratic operative Thomas Mills’ road trip last weekend presents some hopeful contrasts with 2020:

This weekend, I took a drive through a rural Brunswick County precinct where Trump won by 50 points in 2020. I toured Varnumtown, Supply and two RV parks. Four years ago, virtually every yard sported a Trump sign and Trump flags proudly waved above dozens of motor homes in a muscular show of support. This year, I saw very few Trump yard signs and even fewer Trump flags. The difference is stark.

Don’t get me wrong. I know that almost every one of the people living in those houses would vote for Trump if they make it to the polls. I’m just not sure as many will get to the voting booth this year. The obvious enthusiasm of 2020 is gone. I drove one stretch of winding road past dozens of houses for more than five miles and one sad, outdated Trump-Pence sign was the only evidence of support for the former president. It feels like the fever has broken.

Mills offers statistics that may favor Democrats in N.C. this year. But what he’s seen here may have echoes in rural counties in your state. Hildreth will be working on it where you live. Clayton is on it here in N.C.

“We’re not leaving one voter behind.” @abreezeclayton discusses the ground game North Carolina Democrats are using to win elections as down ballot races in her state heat up. pic.twitter.com/8RLV7daSX1

— The Weekend on MSNBC (@TheWeekendMSNBC) September 7, 2024

Taxpayers could pay for striking Kennedy’s name

Elections staffs across North Carolina had prepared over 100,000 absentee ballots to go into the mail on Friday as the law requires. A lawsuit by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. put a halt to it:

The State Board of Elections has appealed Friday’s order by the NC Court of Appeals, which required election officials to remove Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s name from 2024 general election ballots and print new ones. The appeal was filed with the NC Supreme Court Friday afternoon.

As the Supreme Court considers the appeal, State Board staff will work through the weekend to begin the process of coding new ballots without Kennedy’s name and providing proofs of the new ballots to county boards of elections for review. There are 2,348 different ballot styles statewide for the 2024 general election. More than 2.9 million ballots had already been printed before the order by the Court of Appeals.

The State Board instructed county Directors to hold and not destroy ballots already prepared until the matter is resolved.

CNN Dana Bash challenged Democrats’ state chair, Anderson Clayton, Friday afternoon, presenting the “political argument.” Would Democrats be arguing for Kennedy’s name to remain on the ballot if they did not feel his presence would hurt Donald Trump? In trying to paint the matter as partisan wrangling, Bash misses the point.

Chair of the North Carolina Democratic Party @abreezeclayton joins @InsidePolitics to discuss the delays in the start of early voting in her state… and whether NC is in play for Democrats in 2024. pic.twitter.com/sggzV3GSz2

— Dana Bash (@DanaBashCNN) September 6, 2024

Kennedy fought to get on the ballot, as Clayton noted. (Yes, Democrats in multiple states fought that, including in North Carolina.) Kennedy having won recognition of his We The People party, the state reprinted voter registration forms by the hundreds of thousands to include that identification as a choice for his voters.*

But Kennedy delayed withdrawing from the presidential race until August 23. The North Carolina State Board of Elections denied his formal request on August 29 to have his name removed, stating, “Approximately 2 million ballots statewide have already been printed with Kennedy’s name on them, and the first ballots will be sent to absentee voters in eight days.”

This week Kennedy turned his denied late request into a legal demand.

If the GOP-dominated state Supreme Court rules for Kennedy, those 2,348 ballot styles will have to be reformatted, reproofed, reprinted, mailings re-prepared by staff, and voting machines recoded in 100 counties. Boards of election are scrambling over the weekend to tally the unplanned costs in manhours and material to local boards and county taxpayers across the state. It’s the first question voters asked our local board (Buncombe County). The delay could cost weeks and impact voters as well.

“As of late Thursday afternoon, county boards of elections had received 130,400 absentee ballot requests, including more than 12,300 requests from military and overseas voters,” the State Board said in a press statement. More than 2.9 million ballots had been printed before the Court of Appeals’ order on Friday, reports WCNC Charlotte.

North Carolina’s absentee ballots are the first in the nation to mail out, but Kennedy’s eleventh-hour legal demands may impact other states as well. Michigan, for one (The Guardian):

In Michigan, a state appellate court also ruled on Friday that Kennedy’s name as the Natural Law party’s candidate must be stricken from ballots. The Michigan secretary of state’s office said it would appeal to the state supreme court.

Kennedy has been fighting to remove his name from ballots in swing states ever since dropping out and endorsing Donald Trump. Speaking to reporters after the endorsement, Kennedy said that his polling consistently showed he would “likely hand the election over to the Democrats” in battleground states where he was on the ballot.

Kennedy has also sued Wisconsin to have his name removed from ballots there.

Donald Trump is, of course, pleased with the delay (The Hill):

“And that sounds like a bad thing for him. It’s not, it’s actually a great thing,” Trump said Friday in remarks to leaders of the Fraternal Order of Police in Charlotte. “He’s an incredible team player.”

“Some people wouldn’t realize it, so rather than voting for us they vote for him, and that wouldn’t’ help us very much, would it?” Trump continued. “It means that all of those who love Bobby — and there’s a lot of them — and all that he stands for, especially regarding the health and well being of us, can vote for me now. So all of the Bobby people are going to vote for me.”

Kennedy’s presidential bid did not go as planned. Now he and Trump expect taxpayers to pay to cancel his vanity project no matter the public cost and inconvenience. That describes Republicans’ past efforts (and future plans) to throw sand in the gears of democracy across the U.S.

* Tom Fiedler of the Asheville Watchdog finds “In the eight weeks or so that [Kennedy’s] We The People party has been among the options for registering voters, the number of Buncombe County residents choosing to join is … 0. That’s zero. Zippo. None.”  

Baby Koala!

Trauma Season is here. ❤️‍🩹 At this time of year, admissions to the @AustraliaZoo Wildlife Hospital triple. Spring means wildlife are more active, and they often come into contact with cars and domestic pets. While these interactions often have a devastating outcome, our team of… pic.twitter.com/HkjRVHEEwL

— Wildlife Warriors (@wildwarriors) September 2, 2024

Meet Squeak! 🐨 This adorable little girl was attacked by a dog and her mum had no choice but to save herself. Thankfully, Squeak was raced to the @AustraliaZoo Wildlife Hospital and is in the best hands possible! 💞 pic.twitter.com/fIs3G7mdHG

— Wildlife Warriors (@wildwarriors) September 5, 2024

Yay!

Good news alert! 🚨
Squeak’s mum was found, and brought to us at the Australia Zoo Wildlife Hospital. This is the adorable moment the two were reunited. They’ll both stay with us until little Squeak is well enough to be released! 💚🐨 Be sure to turn your sound up to hear Squeak… pic.twitter.com/fvHAD6ysOg

— Wildlife Warriors (@wildwarriors) September 5, 2024

A few fun facts:

– Baby Koalas are known as ‘Joeys’. Scientists often refer to them using terms like ‘juveniles’, ‘pouch young’ and ‘back young’.

– Younger breeding females usually give birth to one Joey each year, depending on a range of factors. However, not all females in a wild population will breed each year. Some, especially older females, will produce offspring only every two or three years.–

– When the Joey is born, it’s only about 2 centimetres long, is blind and furless and its ears are not yet developed. On its amazing journey to the pouch, it relies on its well-developed senses of smell and touch, its strong forelimbs and claws, and an inborn sense of direction. Once in the pouch, it attaches itself to one of the two teats which swells in its mouth, preventing it from being dislodged from its source of food.

– The Joey stays in its mother’s pouch for about 6 or 7 months, drinking only milk. Before it can tolerate gumleaves, which are toxic for most mammals, the joey must feed on a substance called ‘pap’ which is a specialised form of the mother’s droppings that is soft and runny. This allows the mother to pass on to the joey special micro-organisms from her intestine which are necessary for it to be able to digest the gumleaves. It feeds on this for a period of up to a few weeks, just prior to it coming out of the pouch at about 6 or 7 months of age.

– After venturing out of the pouch, the Joey rides on its mother’s abdomen or back, although it continues to return to her pouch for milk until it is too big to fit inside. The joey leaves its mother’s home range between 1 and 3 years old, depending on when the mother has her next joey. You can adopt your own Joey here!

– Koalas are mostly nocturnal. Nocturnal animals are awake at night and asleep during the day. Koalas, however, sleep for part of the night and also sometimes move about in the daytime. They often sleep for up to 18-20 hours each day.

– An adult koala eats about 1/2 – 1 kilogram of leaves each night.

– There is a myth that Koalas sleep a lot because they ‘get drunk’ on gumleaves. Fortunately, this is not correct! Most of their time is spent sleeping because it requires a lot of energy to digest their toxic, fibrous, low-nutrition diet and sleeping is the best way to conserve energy

– Each Koala’s ‘home’ is made up of several trees called HOME TREES. They visit these same trees regularly. The area covered by these trees is called the Koala’s HOME RANGE. Each Koala has its own home range, which overlaps those of other Koalas. Unless breeding, they don’t normally visit another Koalas home trees. The size of each home range depends upon a range of factors including the quality of the habitat and the sex, age and social position in the population of the Koala.

More here

Michelle Goldberg takes on the latest rad fad on the authoritarian right: Hitler apologia and holocaust denial. You knew it was coming, right? She is responding to (yet another) right wing “influencer” and alleged historian named Darryl Cooper and his embrace by none other than Tiucker Carlson.

Some on the right found Carlson’s turn toward Holocaust skepticism surprising. “Didn’t expect Tucker Carlson to become an outlet for Nazi apologetics, but here we are,” Erick Erickson, the conservative radio host, wrote on X. But Carlson’s trajectory was entirely predictable. Nazi sympathy is the natural endpoint of a politics based on glib contrarianism, right-wing transgression and ethnic grievance. . . .

For parts of the contemporary right, however, the social consensuses undergirding liberalism are artificial and even tyrannical. After all, the “Matrix”-derived metaphor of being “red-pilled” implies a realization that all you’ve been told about the nature of reality is a lie, and thus everything is up for grabs. And once you discard all epistemological and moral guardrails, it’s easy to descend into barbarous nonsense.

Candace Owens, another anti-woke right-wing celebrity who has lately become Hitler-curious, has also come to question received wisdom about the shape of the earth. “I’m not a flat-earther,” she said in July. “I’m not a round-earther. Actually, what I am is I am somebody who has left the cult of science.”

Obviously, not every red-pilled conservative ends up arguing, as Owens did, that Hitler gets a bad rap. But the weakening of the intellectual quarantine around Nazism — and the MAGA right’s fetish for ideas their enemies see as dangerous — makes it easier for influential conservatives to surrender to fascist impulses. When they do, they pay no penalty in political relevance, because there’s no conservative establishment capable of disciplining its ideologues.

Carlson has just embarked on a national tour with special guests at each stop. In addition to Alex Jones, he’s scheduled to appear with the vice-presidential nominee JD Vance and Donald Trump Jr.

Whitewashing Hitler is an interesting move for a pro-Russia, pro-Putin acolyte like Carlson. Does he know anything about Russian history, specifically what went down between it and Nazi Germany? He might want to bone up a little bit on that.

On the other hand, for all I know Putin is now a Hitler apologist too and all that mass death and destruction is water under the bridge. It would be a bit surprising if so. Russians usually have pretty long memories. But maybe the allure of der Führer has him in its grip as well.

The Trump spawn are in over their heads as usual

It looks like the two oldest Trump boys are following the footsteps of their father the online media mogul whose stock will soon be worthless. They’re going to lose a lot of people a lot of money with this scam too:

Plans by former president Donald Trump’s eldest sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, to launch a crypto startup have set off alarm bells among even his staunchest allies in the sector, according to a new report in Politico.

The two brothers have spent recent weeks touting World Liberty Financial, their soon-to-be-launched, shrouded-in-secrecy cryptocurrency firm.

But a string of mishaps, including Trump family members getting hacked by scammers and concerns about World Liberty’s deep connections to a blockchain firm that lost $2 million because of security shortfalls, has some arguing they should pack it up before they begin.

“This is a huge mistake,” Nic Carter, a partner at crypto venture capital firm Castle Island Ventures and a Trump backer, told Politico. “It looks like Trump’s inner circle is just cashing in on his recent embrace of crypto in a kind of naive way, and frankly it looks like they’re burning a lot of the good will that’s been built with the industry so far.”

I don’t know about you but I am shocked, SHOCKED, that the Trump boys are scamming and being scammed because they have no idea what they’re doing. Just this week the social media accounts of Lara and Tiffany Trump were apparently hacked by people purporting to be members of the “team” guiding suckers to a fake web site.

The Politico article has the whole story which is even dumber than it sounds. And the fact that they are doing this in the run up to their dad’s presidential election is frankly pretty stunning. Just as Trump’s incoherence and intellectual defects are treated as normal so too is the corruption and conflict of interest everywhere in the Trump family.

But Hunter Biden will probably have to do time.