The Great Debate
by digby
I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked:
There was precious little suspense about today’s House vote on an amendment to include funds for the training of Syrian rebels in the CR. The debate was heated, sure, but these debates are always slanted toward the people who want to talk. The pro-funding side was so confident that Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, an Iraq veteran and leadership ally, took to the floor to mock the people who had not wanted this funding sooner.
“I don’t remember these colleagues stepping forward a month ago,” he said. “By many, I was called a warmonger or a guy who wanted to start a war in Iraq.”
That’s because when the president wants to go to war you can depend on the congress to rubber stamp it. It’s a very rare instance when they don’t. But hey, let’s keep pretending that the real problem is the separation of powers not being properly observed instead of the fact that we are a military empire and very few people in the government (or the country) are concerned with that fundamental reality:
Kinzger won his gloating rights when the House voted 273 to 156 for the Syria amendment. That number was not far off, actually, from the 296-133 vote twelve years ago that kicked off the Iraq War. But the Iraq War vote almost suceeded with the votes of Republicans alone, 214 of their 222 members voting “aye.” This time, only 159 Republicans voted for the funds, and 114 voted against them. Democrats were narrowly with the “no” side, splitting 85-71 against the funds.
That’s right. This time more Republicans voted no and more Democrats voted yes. I can guarantee you that the vote would be the other way if the president were a Republican. (Go back to the Kosovo “debates” to see just how these things swing back and forth on a partisan basis.)
There are more Democrats who are consistently anti-war than there are Republicans. They are in a minority in the congress but they do exist. They voted against the Iraq war and they voted against this weird plan today. Good for them.
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